Steam & Excursion > C&O 614 Forty years ago Today

Forty years ago today (Feb 22, 1981) C&O 614 was in Tampa to run an excursion, but something happened to it (I forget what) so it had to sit out and was replaced by diesels for the day.  It got fixed as it ran West Palm Beach to Miami trips the next weekend.
Second shot is on the WPB - Miami trip after being turned on the wye just north of WPB.
Michael Reid

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Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/ steam like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?
(I'm sure it was disappointing that it was b/o that day, but glad you caught the West Palm Beach to Miami trips!)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/21 10:15 by IC_2024.

I wonder who the crewmember is?  Reminds me a little of Bob Saxton, or Tim Sposato, but cannot see that clearly.  I think they were with the crew during that time period.
Greg

Wonder what went wrong?  Wasn't she known for eating valve rings?

Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.
 

NW611 Wrote:
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> Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.

Except, "Mr. Saxtan" didn't work for the Family Lines, nor The Chessie System to my knowledge.

HotWater Wrote:
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> NW611 Wrote:
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> > Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.
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> Except, "Mr. Saxtan" didn't work for the Family
> Lines, nor The Chessie System to my knowledge.

He started out with the Chessie Steam Speical and then the Safety Express. After the 2101 and 614, went on to the NS program along with a few others from Ross's crew.

Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the gremlin here. We learned the hard way that the Superheat temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot for the oil we were using and once in a while would " arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings. IIRC we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new set of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 

    Great memories.  Ross Rowland 

co614 Wrote:
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> Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve
> Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the gremlin
> here. We learned the hard way that the Superheat
> temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot for
> the oil we were using and once in a while would "
> arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings. IIRC
> we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new set
> of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 
>
>     Great memories.  Ross Rowland 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that a similar situation happened to SP&S 700 a few years back!

patd3985 Wrote:
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> co614 Wrote:
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> > Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve
> > Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the
> gremlin
> > here. We learned the hard way that the
> Superheat
> > temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot
> for
> > the oil we were using and once in a while would
> "
> > arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings.
> IIRC
> > we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new
> set
> > of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 
> >
> >     Great memories.  Ross Rowland 
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that a
> similar situation happened to SP&S 700 a few years
> back!

No, i.e. NOT the quality of the valve oil. The root cause of the SP&S 700 problem was, not actually delivering ANY valve oil into the valves. The valve oil delivery "spoons" in the short steam pipes were all carboned up & plugged, thus no oil delivered into the steam flow.

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/ steam
> like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?

Winter steam excursions in Chicago and Duluth?  :)

RuleG Wrote:
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> IC_2024 Wrote:
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> > Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/
> steam
> > like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?
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> Winter steam excursions in Chicago and Duluth? 
> :)

Haha— yess, but too cold ( yes, awesome steam clouds), but even the Snow Bunnies would be properly covered !! ( unlike the talent in South Florida !!). 😜 😘

i believe that is Scott Lindsey


gregscholl Wrote:
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> I wonder who the crewmember is?  Reminds me a
> little of Bob Saxton, or Tim Sposato, but cannot
> see that clearly.  I think they were with the
> crew during that time period.
> Greg

I do have a DVD by Hopewell Productions that showed Mr. Sutherland as the engineer and Mr. Saxtan as the fireman on a trip from Richmond to Clifton Forge.