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Date: 02/22/21 10:08
C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: lapklub

Forty years ago today (Feb 22, 1981) C&O 614 was in Tampa to run an excursion, but something happened to it (I forget what) so it had to sit out and was replaced by diesels for the day.  It got fixed as it ran West Palm Beach to Miami trips the next weekend.
Second shot is on the WPB - Miami trip after being turned on the wye just north of WPB.
Michael Reid






Date: 02/22/21 10:12
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: IC_2024

Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/ steam like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?
(I'm sure it was disappointing that it was b/o that day, but glad you caught the West Palm Beach to Miami trips!)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/21 10:15 by IC_2024.



Date: 02/22/21 12:45
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: gregscholl

I wonder who the crewmember is?  Reminds me a little of Bob Saxton, or Tim Sposato, but cannot see that clearly.  I think they were with the crew during that time period.
Greg



Date: 02/22/21 13:27
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: Frisco1522

Wonder what went wrong?  Wasn't she known for eating valve rings?



Date: 02/22/21 16:05
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: NW611

Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.
 



Date: 02/22/21 16:10
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: HotWater

NW611 Wrote:
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> Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.

Except, "Mr. Saxtan" didn't work for the Family Lines, nor The Chessie System to my knowledge.



Date: 02/22/21 16:12
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: NW611

HotWater Wrote:
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> NW611 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thst looks like Mr. Saxtan.
>
> Except, "Mr. Saxtan" didn't work for the Family
> Lines, nor The Chessie System to my knowledge.

He started out with the Chessie Steam Speical and then the Safety Express. After the 2101 and 614, went on to the NS program along with a few others from Ross's crew.



Date: 02/22/21 16:31
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: co614

Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the gremlin here. We learned the hard way that the Superheat temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot for the oil we were using and once in a while would " arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings. IIRC we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new set of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 

    Great memories.  Ross Rowland 



Date: 02/22/21 17:44
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: patd3985

co614 Wrote:
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> Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve
> Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the gremlin
> here. We learned the hard way that the Superheat
> temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot for
> the oil we were using and once in a while would "
> arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings. IIRC
> we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new set
> of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 
>
>     Great memories.  Ross Rowland 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that a similar situation happened to SP&S 700 a few years back!



Date: 02/22/21 17:49
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: HotWater

patd3985 Wrote:
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> co614 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Me thinks it's either Bob Saxtan or Steve
> > Wickersham. Yes, burned out rings was the
> gremlin
> > here. We learned the hard way that the
> Superheat
> > temps ( occassionally above 750F) were too hot
> for
> > the oil we were using and once in a while would
> "
> > arc" in the valve chamber and kill the rings.
> IIRC
> > we upgraded the oil ( after putting in a new
> set
> > of valve rings) and that seemed to cure it. 
> >
> >     Great memories.  Ross Rowland 
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that a
> similar situation happened to SP&S 700 a few years
> back!

No, i.e. NOT the quality of the valve oil. The root cause of the SP&S 700 problem was, not actually delivering ANY valve oil into the valves. The valve oil delivery "spoons" in the short steam pipes were all carboned up & plugged, thus no oil delivered into the steam flow.



Date: 02/22/21 19:47
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: RuleG

IC_2024 Wrote:
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> Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/ steam
> like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?

Winter steam excursions in Chicago and Duluth?  :)



Date: 02/22/21 22:21
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: IC_2024

RuleG Wrote:
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> IC_2024 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow-- looking good!  February in Tampa w/
> steam
> > like 614-- what more could you ask for?!?
>
> Winter steam excursions in Chicago and Duluth? 
> :)

Haha— yess, but too cold ( yes, awesome steam clouds), but even the Snow Bunnies would be properly covered !! ( unlike the talent in South Florida !!). 😜 😘



Date: 02/23/21 07:29
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: towazy

i believe that is Scott Lindsey


gregscholl Wrote:
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> I wonder who the crewmember is?  Reminds me a
> little of Bob Saxton, or Tim Sposato, but cannot
> see that clearly.  I think they were with the
> crew during that time period.
> Greg



Date: 02/23/21 09:14
Re: C&O 614 Forty years ago Today
Author: akpsteam

I do have a DVD by Hopewell Productions that showed Mr. Sutherland as the engineer and Mr. Saxtan as the fireman on a trip from Richmond to Clifton Forge.



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