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Date: 10/05/21 07:27
3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: i64west

3985 (departing) and 4014 (arriving) pass in front of the Gateway Arch on the MacArthur Bridge's western approach in downtown St. Louis, 11 years apart.  The cool October morning in 2010 along with 3985's safeties popping off made for a great visual show.  A much bigger crowd was present for 4014.
 




Date: 10/05/21 13:01
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: Wolfman

Cool Picture!



Date: 10/05/21 15:40
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: radar

The two photos show the difference between the two locomotives.  The 3985 looks like it's a capable locomotive doing some work.  The 4014 looks castrated, merely a tea kettle getting shoved along.



Date: 10/05/21 17:28
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: wingomann

radar Wrote:
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> The two photos show the difference between the two
> locomotives.  The 3985 looks like it's a capable
> locomotive doing some work.  The 4014 looks
> castrated, merely a tea kettle getting shoved
> along.

Isn't the 4014 drifting downgrade?  At least it is a steam engine that is hot, not sitting in a park.



Date: 10/05/21 19:12
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: bankshotone

radar Wrote:
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> The two photos show the difference between the two
> locomotives.  The 3985 looks like it's a capable
> locomotive doing some work.  The 4014 looks
> castrated, merely a tea kettle getting shoved
> along.

I see what you mean. If I didn't know any better I'd say there were just a few tires burning to provide some smoke.
I don't even see any steam coming from 4014.....



Date: 10/06/21 07:44
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: TractiveEffort

rgzfan Wrote:
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> One is going uphill, the other downhill...

Right!  Plus, one was on a "cool October morning", the other was on a hot August afternoon.



Date: 10/06/21 08:20
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: Bucyrus-Erie

That's pretty cool!
Shame about the added graffiti ... but, such is life.
I wish one of the eastern RRs would operate such a steam shop.

Jim Lee
Lake Hopatcong, NJ



Date: 10/06/21 09:06
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: radar

TractiveEffort Wrote:
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> rgzfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > One is going uphill, the other downhill...
>
> Right!  Plus, one was on a "cool October
> morning", the other was on a hot August afternoon.

OK, I'll give you that.



Date: 10/06/21 09:52
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: original

MEOW !



Date: 10/06/21 10:20
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: redberan4449

Bucyrus-Erie Wrote:
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> That's pretty cool!
> Shame about the added graffiti ... but, such is
> life.
> I wish one of the eastern RRs would operate such a
> steam shop.
>
> Jim Lee
> Lake Hopatcong, NJ

Photoshop handles it all.



Date: 10/06/21 18:00
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: ProAmtrak

Nice pics, but it does sucks with the graffitti crap though!



Date: 10/07/21 00:04
Re: 3985 and 4014 with the Gateway Arch, 11 years apart
Author: coach

It's really amazing that BIG BOY is running.  No one ever thought it would happen.  Some even said that it was too heavy and rigid to do much travel on today's UP's rail.  Yet, here it is.

I do miss Steve Lee & Co. and that gorgeous Challenger engine.  Built for speed and weight!!



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