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Steam & Excursion > 4014 Big BoyDate: 10/12/21 06:27 4014 Big Boy Author: KDC Is Big Boy scheduled to pull some heavy freight anytime soon?
Posted from iPhone Date: 10/12/21 06:33 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: switchlock Nothing has been mentioned here. You can check the schedule, if there is one, at upsteam.com.
Date: 10/12/21 07:03 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: Spoony81 KDC Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Is Big Boy scheduled to pull some heavy freight > anytime soon? > > Posted from iPhone Pulling anything heavy would be a first. I don’t see it happening Date: 10/12/21 07:09 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: Train29 Since restoration, has it ever pulled a train without a diesel involved?
Date: 10/12/21 08:12 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: BAB Train29 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Since restoration, has it ever pulled a train > without a diesel involved? Who really cares as for one when operating on the main if anything were to happen, such as 700 when it spun out on the single track main by Lind WA years back would take care of getting it off of it. That deal plugged the main up had to cut a diesel off of a stack train and one stayed on it the rest of its trip. Date: 10/12/21 08:21 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: Spoony81 BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Train29 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Since restoration, has it ever pulled a train > > without a diesel involved? > Who really cares as for one when operating on the > main if anything were to happen, such as 700 when > it spun out on the single track main by Lind WA > years back would take care of getting it off of > it. That deal plugged the main up had to cut a > diesel off of a stack train and one stayed on it > the rest of its trip. It spun out? Did it hit a patch of ice and do a donut on the rails Polar Express style? Posted from iPhone Date: 10/12/21 08:53 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: Tominde What sparked this post?
Right now you need the diesel for PTC. Perhaps if they install PTC soley in 4014 a solo on freight would be a shakedown. But I just can't imagine. Date: 10/12/21 08:59 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: Hillcrest Spoony81 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > BAB Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Train29 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Since restoration, has it ever pulled a train > > > without a diesel involved? > > Who really cares as for one when operating on > the > > main if anything were to happen, such as 700 > when > > it spun out on the single track main by Lind WA > > years back would take care of getting it off of > > it. That deal plugged the main up had to cut > a > > diesel off of a stack train and one stayed on > it > > the rest of its trip. > > It spun out? Did it hit a patch of ice and do a > donut on the rails Polar Express style? > > Posted from iPhone It were the freezing fog what done it, and then the Hail came! Hail as big as a babys' fist! Cheers, Dave Date: 10/12/21 11:23 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: BKLJ611 Tominde Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > What sparked this post? > > Right now you need the diesel for PTC. Perhaps > if they install PTC soley in 4014 a solo on > freight would be a shakedown. But I just can't > imagine. Pot stirring… Posted from iPhone Date: 10/12/21 11:40 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: HotWater BAB Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Train29 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Since restoration, has it ever pulled a train > > without a diesel involved? > Who really cares as for one when operating on the > main if anything were to happen, such as 700 when > it spun out on the single track main by Lind WA > years back would take care of getting it off of > it. Boy, you sure take the cake!!!!!! That was the trip that she burned up her valve rings, due to lack of lubrication (the valve oil delivery 'spoons' in the short steam pipes were all carboned up & plugged). She flat out stalled, i.e. not "spun out"! That deal plugged the main up had to cut a > diesel off of a stack train and one stayed on it > the rest of its trip. Date: 10/12/21 15:01 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: callum_out The engine didn't turn sideways on the rails and hit the wall?
Out Date: 10/12/21 17:15 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: wcamp1472 Jack's comment about the oil delivery 'spoons' in the dry pipes above the cylinders
cannot be stressed enough as to the important aspect of primitive cylinder lubrication. At superheat temperatures, the tallow-based valve oils of the day turned into blue, greasy smoke carried down to the valves and pistons. However, the solids in the lube fluid remain 'cooked' to the delivery scheme steel & piping ( in this example) exposed to the very high temps. The "blue-smoke" is similar the the grease that collects in the cooking hoods of 'burger joints and diners... it is an effective way to provide lubrications... without being in the liquid state... However, only about 1/3 of the-miles of any trip are spent at superheat temperatures. Thus, the hot, gooey valve oil liquid tends to dribble down the walls of the cylinder saddle casting..l The dribbling, drooling action doesn't help the valve rings, cages ( valve bushings) or the piston packing (rings). A good practice with mechanical pumping systems ( valve oil) is annual change-out of the delivery pieces that are inside the steam delivery pipes, at the cylinders. Its best done with a clean set of 'spoons' , because the change-out is easy to do. Duplicating the delivery spoons is a good project for freshman machinists, learning the trade of machining the parts for locomotive maintenance and restoration. Having a spare set of these pieces is easy to duplicate, and very useful.. Whenever, restoring a locomotive equipped with mechanical lubricators, it's vital that these crucial parts be scraped, cleaned and pristine --- when put into service and.... about after every 3,000 miles of running... Keep track of the miles of evident superheat conditions... Flat track profiles, and down-hill territories tend to cut-back on draft volumes & velocities...generating less hot steam than the upgrades.. Superheating is entirely dependent upon the trailing load that holds-back on the engine's drawbar ---- no drag, no draft; no draft, no superheat... Its not complicated. Until held-back, at the designer's strongest drafting rates, 4014 will stay a 'soaker', for life... They carry 3 tender's'-full of water and a handful of coaches...... that shows you how wet the water is leaving the stack.. Piss-warm. W. Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/13/21 10:15 by wcamp1472. Date: 10/13/21 09:12 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: SantaFeCF7 KDC Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Is Big Boy scheduled to pull some heavy freight > anytime soon? > > Posted from iPhone I hear it's pulling an empty flat car from track 1 over to track 2 today =) Date: 10/14/21 20:33 Re: 4014 Big Boy Author: ProAmtrak As long as the current leader's there, don't see it happening, 3985'll always be the best show when it comes to pulling freight!
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