Steam & Excursion > Monday Museum Steam: Union Pacific #814

This 4-8-4 is at the Rails West Museum, Council Bluffs, IA. The outdoor location gives many photo angles, but at the cost of weather exposure. Photos taken in 2007.

B&O Bill



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/24 04:36 by bandob.

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Access to the cab is provided.

B&O Bill

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Nice photos, Bill.  Most all museums around the country are faced with the same problems, too much equipment, and no indoor space to maintain them.  The B&O R.R. Museum in Baltimore is a prime example, especially with the passenger cars outside on display, rusting away, a real shame.
John in White Marsh, Maryland

Bill, Nice photos, thank you.

I was wondering what happened to the original 6 wheel truck tender from this  FEF-1.  Utah Rails web site has this answer:

"UP 801, 804, 805, 808, and 814 (5 locomotives) received larger 23-C Centipede tenders to replace their original 20-C tenders, which were removed for conversion to 24-GTE tenders for the larger 8500 GTE locomotives delivered in 1960."

 

Inside looks a lot better than that of T&P 2-10-4 # 638 given to the State Fair of Texas in Dallas.  In 6 months there was not a piece of glass remaining and all the gauges were missing and seat cushions were destroyed. The inside of the cab was totally vandalized.

These photos do her honor.
Bob

faded a lot since then

She sure could use some tlc.

BuddPullman Wrote:
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> Bill, Nice photos, thank you.
>
> I was wondering what happened to the original 6
> wheel truck tender from this  FEF-1.  Utah Rails
> web site has this answer:
>
> "UP 801, 804, 805, 808, and 814 (5 locomotives)
> received larger 23-C Centipede tenders to replace
> their original 20-C tenders, which were removed
> for conversion to 24-GTE tenders for the larger
> 8500 GTE locomotives delivered in 1960."
>
>  
It is currently used behind 4014 and 844 as water tender Joe Jordan.

BandO946 Wrote:
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> BuddPullman Wrote:
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> > Bill, Nice photos, thank you.
> >
> > I was wondering what happened to the original 6
> > wheel truck tender from this  FEF-1.  Utah
> Rails
> > web site has this answer:
> >
> > "UP 801, 804, 805, 808, and 814 (5 locomotives)
> > received larger 23-C Centipede tenders to
> replace
> > their original 20-C tenders, which were removed
> > for conversion to 24-GTE tenders for the larger
> > 8500 GTE locomotives delivered in 1960."
> >
> >  
> It is currently used behind 4014 and 844 as water
> tender Joe Jordan.


Actually the UPP 814 Joe Jordan came from locomotive 807.

UPP 809 Jim Adams came from locomotive 816

That Hancock three chime must be on there pretty tight, or it would be gone by now.

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tomstp Wrote:
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> Inside looks a lot better than that of T&P 2-10-4
> # 638 given to the State Fair of Texas in
> Dallas.  In 6 months there was not a piece of
> glass remaining and all the gauges were missing
> and seat cushions were destroyed. The inside of
> the cab was totally vandalized.

Yes, so sad it always is, to see such history vandalized.  Vandalization must be an age old thing, but only seems worse with time.  It appears in these photos, at that time, the marker lights had survived well, but glass iin reflectors and headlight covers, number boards, etc. evidently didn't.  
Question:  Why, on the smoke deflector are there several dents which seem applied from the boiler side?  I've seen such on other photos of such UP engines and even on some restored engines.

looks like where welds were from cross bracing

Why do the cylinders on the UP 4-8-4’s look undersized to me? Obviously they were not. Did UP have a superior design or am I just nuts?? DON’T ANSWER THAT!! Ha!!

Markus V.
“The Fort in Indiana”

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Goalieman Wrote:
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> Why do the cylinders on the UP 4-8-4’s look
> undersized to me? Obviously they were not. Did UP
> have a superior design or am I just nuts?? DON’T
> ANSWER THAT!! Ha!!
>
> Markus V.
> “The Fort in Indiana”

The FEF-1 class locomotives had 24.5" diameter cylinders, while the FEF-2 & FEF-3 class had 25" diameter cylinders. Do you consider those diameters "undersize"? That said, I would indeed say that the "UP had a superior design".

As far as you being "just nuts",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hard to say.