Steam & Excursion > Is 4014 bypassing Southern California upcoming trip?

I didn't see Los Angeles or West Colton mentioned in the last update they published.

Jim Baker
Riverside, CA

RailRat Wrote:
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> I didn't see Los Angeles or West Colton mentioned
> in the last update they published.

IIRC the 2024 schedule was never to include Southern California. 

I know they planned on running over donner a year or so ago but had to cancel the trip, and this makes up for that. However I cannot help but find irony in the fact that they are calling this a "four corners" trip, when they are skipping a corner! 

Yog-Sothoth Wrote:
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> I know they planned on running over donner a year
> or so ago but had to cancel the trip, and this
> makes up for that. However I cannot help but find
> irony in the fact that they are calling this a
> "four corners" trip, when they are skipping a
> corner! 

Maybe the fourth corner will be added. Would make sense to take it to Los Angeles and then across the southwest to Texas.  Summer across the Sunset Route.  That would be hot!

Todd Clark
Canyon Country, CA
Trainorders.com

The LA area is such a disaster as far as viewer participation, be surprised if UP wanted any part of that-again. 
I doubt thar Donner will be any better but it's a pick your poison thing and Roseville would be a good place to
"address" the "employees".

Out 



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/08/24 18:17 by callum_out.

Yog-Sothoth Wrote:
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> However I cannot help but find
> irony in the fact that they are calling this a
> "four corners" trip, when they are skipping a
> corner! 

Yes thanks for that Yog. You reminded me about that "4 corners" thing is really why I posted this question.
Maybe they are thinking "4 Trapezoid corners"?😀

Jim Baker
Riverside, CA

Probably cant pass the required emissions test at the border. 

NSDTK Wrote:
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> Probably cant pass the required emissions test at
> the border. 

What emissions tests are required for steam locomotives entering California??? 

RuleG Wrote:
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> NSDTK Wrote:
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> > Probably cant pass the required emissions test
> at
> > the border. 
>
> What emissions tests are required for steam
> locomotives entering California??? 

Yeah,that joke is pretty tired. For as much as 'one side' likes to bash the Golden State, if it were an independent nation its economy would beat England and maybe even India, depending on where you get your info. They must be doing a bunch of things right.

Posted from Android

I think it is a "Debt of Honor" to visit Southern California because it was the local chapter of RLHS that transferred the 4014 back to the UP.  They did not have to  do it, but it was believed that it would be in better hands, and more people could see it if they traded it away.  IIRC there were vague promises that it would make an appearance some time.

NSDTK Wrote:
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> Probably cant pass the required emissions test at
> the border. 

<YAWN!>

railstiesballast Wrote:
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> I think it is a "Debt of Honor" to visit Southern
> California because it was the local chapter of
> RLHS that transferred the 4014 back to the UP. 
> They did not have to  do it, but it was believed
> that it would be in better hands, and more people
> could see it if they traded it away.  IIRC there
> were vague promises that it would make an
> appearance some time.

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railstiesballast Wrote:
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> I think it is a "Debt of Honor" to visit Southern
> California because it was the local chapter of
> RLHS that transferred the 4014 back to the UP. 
> They did not have to  do it, but it was believed
> that it would be in better hands, and more people
> could see it if they traded it away.  IIRC there
> were vague promises that it would make an
> appearance some time.

And,,,,,,,,,,it did already, i.e. "make an appearance". Even ran a "fund raising" one way excursion over Cajon, with bus return.

A-1 Wrote:
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> RuleG Wrote:
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> > NSDTK Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Probably cant pass the required emissions
> test
> > at
> > > the border. 
> >
> > What emissions tests are required for steam
> > locomotives entering California??? 
>
> Yeah,that joke is pretty tired. For as much as
> 'one side' likes to bash the Golden State, if it
> were an independent nation its economy would beat
> England and maybe even India, depending on where
> you get your info. They must be doing a bunch of
> things right.
>
> Posted from Android

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/gov-gavin-newsom-faces-reckoning-with-73b-budget-deficit-lawmakers-say-he-helped-create/ar-BB1lfIk4

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A-1 Wrote:
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> RuleG Wrote:
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> > NSDTK Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Probably cant pass the required emissions
> test
> > at
> > > the border. 
> >
> > What emissions tests are required for steam
> > locomotives entering California??? 
>
> Yeah,that joke is pretty tired. For as much as
> 'one side' likes to bash the Golden State, if it
> were an independent nation its economy would beat
> England and maybe even India, depending on where
> you get your info. They must be doing a bunch of
> things right.
>
> Posted from Android

China has a huge economy too. Do they do things right? California was graced by God with a great geographic location, a mostly mild climate, beautiful scenery a large amount of natural resources and it's one of the greatest places on earth to grow fruits and vegetables. Neither the citizenry or the government of California can take much credit for ANY of those natural advantages over most other states. It has become a self perpetuating economic force based primarily on its large population and the above natural advantages. In my opinion, properly run, California's economy could be exponentially larger, and they are currently doing their best to slaughter the golden goose.

Posted from iPhone

Its only a matter of time before they start emissions testing locomotives as they enter California. As it is there are certain locomotives banished from California. Even some modern ES44s from BNSF can not go into California anymore. All Semis entering the state are emissions tested where they entire the border at. 



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/24 08:35 by NSDTK.

do steam engine's emissions harm the environment?

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goneon66 Wrote:
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> do steam engine's emissions harm the environment?
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> 66

Of course they do. Also don't forget about all the "sludge" from the boiler blowdowns and the various lubricants that are flung/dripped all over the place.

goneon66 Wrote:
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> do steam engine's emissions harm the environment?
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> 66

Yes they do, but only in California!

Jim Baker
Riverside, CA

NSDTK Wrote:
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> Its only a matter of time before they start
> emissions testing locomotives as they enter
> California.

Probably about the same time that Arizona has Pacific Ocean beach front property.

> All
> Semis entering the state are emissions tested
> where they entire the border at. 

ROFLMAO

Oh wait, let me put my hip wader boots on. It is getting real thick around here.