Nostalgia & History > CNW at Nevada,Ia.

Nothing fancy here,just thought someone might like to see some older CNW.
CNW 8501,September 6,1998.

Uncle Joe
Florida

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Very photogenic. Looks like the train is approaching an interlocking. Any more details? Who is the other railroad? Automated or manned interlocking?

Approaching Chicago Jct., with a nice Dash 8 leader.

Thanks for sharing.


CyRail

He is on the connection that runs between the Chicago to Fremont,Ne main and the Minneapolis to Kansas City "Spine Line"

Doug

Historically, Nevada (pronounced "Nee-vay-duh"), Iowa was where the C&NW's east-west main line crossed over the Rock Island's Twin Cities-to-Kansas City main line--grade separated. After the failure of the Rock Island, CNW obtained this line to use as its main TC-KC route, and an improvement over CNW's own Chicago-KC route (over portions of the former Chicago Great Western). Shortly thereafter, a new connecting track was built between the two lines, with wyes at each end--Kansas City Junction on the CNW line, and Chicago Junction on the ex-RI. These are CTC points, controlled by the respective dispatchers on the lines involved (in fact, it was the first CTC on the double-track portion of the old CNW in Iowa, which is now virtually all CTC--or soon will be).

See comments / corrections below...


CShaveRR Wrote:
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> Historically, Nevada (pronounced "Nee-vay-duh"),

Locally, it's always been pronounced "Na-VAH-dah", even though the town was named after the Sierra Nevada mountains...


> Iowa was where the C&NW's east-west main line
> crossed over the Rock Island's Twin
> Cities-to-Kansas City main line--grade separated.

Rather than crossing in Nevada proper, the two routes crossed east of there, 1/2 way between Nevada and Colo (CNW) or between Nevada and Fernald (if on the RI) at a location RRers called "Devil's Hollow".


> After the failure of the Rock Island, CNW obtained
> this line to use as its main TC-KC route ...

> Shortly thereafter, a new connecting track was
> built between the two lines, with wyes at each
> end--Kansas City Junction on the CNW line, and
> Chicago Junction on the ex-RI.

Just to add to that, the "Nevada Sub" as the new connection was called, saw its first revenue train in early November of 1983. The wye connecting the Nevada Sub to the E-W main was originally named "Nevada Jct" but was later renamed "Kansas City Jct (E&W)" as mentioned above.


> These are CTC
> points, controlled by the respective dispatchers
> on the lines involved (in fact, it was the first
> CTC on the double-track portion of the old CNW in
> Iowa, which is now virtually all CTC--or soon will
> be).

For what it's worth, in the Mo. Valley area (western Iowa) they had a few miles of two-main track CTC in operation dating from the 1960s. I believe that would have been CNW's first official CTC on multi-main tracks in Iowa.


Take care,

Mark

> CShaveRR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Historically, Nevada (pronounced
> "Nee-vay-duh"),

mamfahr Wrote:
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> Locally, it's always been pronounced "Na-VAH-dah",
> even though the town was named after the Sierra
> Nevada mountains...

It's always been pronounced "Na-vay-duh" to me and everyone else I've heard that live around here. A mix between your pronunciations.

> Just to add to that, the "Nevada Sub" as the new
> connection was called, saw its first revenue train
> in early November of 1983. The wye connecting the
> Nevada Sub to the E-W main was originally named
> "Nevada Jct" but was later renamed "Kansas City
> Jct (E&W)" as mentioned above.

And to add just a bit more, the "Connection" or "Connector", as it is usually called, is known as Kansas City Jct (East, West and South) on the double main, and Chicago Jct (North, South and West) on the Spine Line.

-Justin

> > > Historically, Nevada (pronounced
> > "Nee-vay-duh"),
>
> mamfahr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Locally, it's always been pronounced
> "Na-VAH-dah",
> > even though the town was named after the Sierra
> > Nevada mountains...
>
> It's always been pronounced "Na-vay-duh" to me and
> everyone else I've heard that live around here. A
> mix between your pronunciations.


Justin has kindly provided a better way to illustrate the common local pronunciation, "Na-vay-duh" - much better than my attempt "Na-VAH-dah". My "VAH" was supposed to be pronounced with a long "A" sound but "vay" is a much clearer way to show that. 'Still interesting that the town is pronounced differently from the Sierra Nevada mountain range that it's named after - one of many cities / towns that have that "problem"...

Thanks for the clarification,

Mark