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Date: 01/26/11 07:19
SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: SP2778

1. At Curtain, OR.
2. At Drain, OR.
PS The children were locals, not mine.

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Date: 01/26/11 07:42
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: WAF

Classic SP. Stick rail on the Siskiyous, lumber empties. The diference between 20 years earlier outside of the locomotives and worn lettering is the consist is half the size, a sign of the disappearing lumber industry



Date: 01/26/11 08:08
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: coosbaytoday

Great video!
The way I remember the Siskiyou line in the old days.
Thanks for sharing.
Todd Montgomery
Eugene OR



Date: 01/26/11 11:01
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: the_expediter

Didn't see any graffiti at all. And a bay window caboose, sweet!- Steve



Date: 01/26/11 12:02
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: triestin

Love it... Very classic SP! Anyone know what those 3 smooth sided cars were at the rear of the train? 2nd to the last from the caboose.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/11 12:02 by triestin.



Date: 01/26/11 12:32
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: WAF

wood chip cars



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/11 12:35 by WAF.



Date: 01/26/11 12:34
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: ButteStBrakeman

triestin Wrote:
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> Love it... Very classic SP! Anyone know what those
> 3 smooth sided cars were at the rear of the train?
> 2nd to the last from the caboose.


They kinda look like wood chip cars....Also, I think this is the train we used to call the "MUG"?

V

SLOCONDR



Date: 01/26/11 18:45
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: BryanTCook

SP2778 Wrote:
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> 1. At Curtain, OR.
> 2. At Drain, OR.
> PS The children were locals, not mine.


Nice work! It's inspiring me to drag something out of my VHS pile.



Date: 01/26/11 19:02
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: WAF

SLOCONDR Wrote:
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> triestin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Love it... Very classic SP! Anyone know what
> those
> > 3 smooth sided cars were at the rear of the
> train?
> > 2nd to the last from the caboose.
>
>
> They kinda look like wood chip cars....Also, I
> think this is the train we used to call the
> "MUG"?
>
> V
>
> SLOCONDR

Yes and No, V. They came to Oregon in a MUG, but this job just peddles them up the line



Date: 01/26/11 22:26
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: ButteStBrakeman

Thanks Wes, that is something new for me.

V

SLOCONDR



Date: 01/26/11 23:28
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: Fizzboy7

Fabulous video! All the great SP attributes for the line are present.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/11 14:59 by Fizzboy7.



Date: 01/27/11 05:46
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: BCHellman

WAF Wrote:
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> Classic SP. Stick rail on the Siskiyous, lumber
> empties. The diference between 20 years earlier
> outside of the locomotives and worn lettering is
> the consist is half the size, a sign of the
> disappearing lumber industry

Also, only one center-beam flat plus there are still straight flats and bulk-head flats.



Date: 01/27/11 13:48
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: WAF

Spur



Date: 01/27/11 19:31
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: webmaster

Hey, that's my single semaphore at Drain on the other side of the bridge. It is in my shop and here is a video of it:

http://www.signalscience.org/stations/b.php

Todd Clark
Canyon Country, CA
Trainorders.com



Date: 01/27/11 21:43
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: ProAmtrak

Great video, and the gyralite, don't get any better than that!



Date: 01/27/11 23:04
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: funnelfan

Awesome video. Remember watching out for the banding hanging out open doors flapping around in the wind.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Date: 01/28/11 12:52
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: JLY

WAF Wrote:
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> SLOCONDR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > triestin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Love it... Very classic SP! Anyone know what
> > those
> > > 3 smooth sided cars were at the rear of the
> > train?
> > > 2nd to the last from the caboose.
> >
> >
> > They kinda look like wood chip cars....Also, I
> > think this is the train we used to call the
> > "MUG"?
> >
> > V
> >
> > SLOCONDR
>
> Yes and No, V. They came to Oregon in a MUG, but
> this job just peddles them up the line

"XMUG" was a contraction for "Empties for Eugene" and originated in San Antonio. They were to be approximately 150 cars in length and operated in a block with 1000 mile inspections at Los Angeles and Roseville. In 1958 the CTC sidings between Anapra and Dunsmuir were to be constructed from switch point to switch point at 9000 ft lengths to handle these trains with out having to interrupt their length.
This is why the "Rock Pile" tracks in Roseville were constructed at 10000 ft lengths so the trains would not have to be doubled over but could be inspected and sent north. The three "Rock Pile" tracks are the only three remaining tracks in the old Antelope yard from the SP days.
Dunsmuir Yard was still in operation in those days and with the run through and closing of Gerber the empties were switched and distributed at Dunsmuir to the Siskiyou and Eugene.
When the flow of the empties in the MUG trains was interrupted even for a short time it would seriously effect the NW lumber move. Still it was not as serious as the "Spotted Owl".



Date: 01/28/11 13:19
Re: SP-EUMEM 6-30-89
Author: WAF

And LA and WC.

After Feb, 3, 1974 when symbols were changed to alpha characters, MUG trains received the letter "E" for empties".. i.e. WCEUE, LAEUE, SAEUE



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/11 13:23 by WAF.



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