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Back in the 40's up to the 70's railroads applied a plate above the frame of the locomotive with the description of the locomotive, silver on black, I know they are not called "Builders" but something else. Thanks
MrOGDEN

Do you mean the " Trust Plates" ? A plate that said the Locomotive was owned by such and such under a security agreement

Not a trust plate, but ones that read U25C, the GP/SD above 30/45. Hope this helps. I think that they were gone buy the late 1970's.

MrOGDEN

I know what you're talking about. I don't know what the official terminology was for them, but I've heard them referred to as "nameplates." As in "Milwaukee Road added GP20 nameplates to their 2000 horsepower GP9 rebuilds."

There are called builders plates and give information such as serial number etc.They are still used on new locomotives
but now they are usually just decals.

Uncle Joe-Seffner,Fl.

retcsxcfm Wrote:
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> There are called builders plates and give
> information such as serial number etc.

That's not what he's talking about. He means the kind that only have the locomotive model number in large characters.

Mark

Plates like the one that says GP30 on the battery box of this unit:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/attachments/fullsize/432000/gp30.cbq.denver.10.70.motis.jpg

or SD9 on this unit:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/attachments/fullsize/337000/CBQ6184_RiceYard_Denver_1974.jpg

I think the confusion wraps around the fact that not every railroad used the model plates. SP, for instance, never used them and I did not see a unit with such a plate until I moved to Denver and saw them on BN units and former CB&Q units. I also think they were applied mainly to EMD products. I thought the plates only removed any doubt as to the model of the diesel filling my view finder, but looked pretty classy too!!

I even bought one at Winterail one year.

I've seen them mostly on EMD's, too, but CB&Q put them on early GE's, too:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/attachments/fullsize/600000/BN_5633_GALESBURG_060773_C_NELSON.jpg
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,208410,208410#208410
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=129090

Evan, your correct. I tried googling a site and couldnt find one. Can anyone post a decent picture of one, much appreciated. MrOGDEN

Mr Ogden,

I quickly scanned some Q class or model plates. Sorry the FT is so poor, a going away in the rain set of power on that one.

Keith A

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