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Nostalgia & History > Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, 12:Date: 10/26/13 22:14 Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, 12: Author: psurveyor Subject: Disaster at Honda (long)
Author: John Snyder [SMTP:John_Snyder@macnexus.org] at DISAHUB Date: 9/23/98 10:58 AM http://meteora.ucsd.edu/wx_pages/stuff/southern_pacific.txt For those who expressed interest in the article that appeared in the Southern Pacific Bulletin at the time of the grounding at Honda, here it is: S.P. Men Save Lives In Naval Tragedy, _The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, 12:10, December 1923. Southern Pacific men and women will be interested to know that their comrades on the Coast Division did splendid work in saving lives and giving general relief when seven destroyers of the United States navy were wrecked, the evening of September 8, on the jagged rocks of Honda, Calif., 63 miles north of Santa Barbara. Twenty-three lives were lost in the wrecks and nineteen men were injured. The timely assistance of Southern Pacific men undoubtedly prevented a greater death toll. One woman, Mrs. C.L. Atkins, wife of the third trick operator at Surf will be remembered for many years by the navy men for her fine work in caring for the survivors, making them comfortable, giving them coffee, and doing other acts of kindness. Mrs. Atkins mothered the boys for nearly twenty-four hours without a rest. The destroyers, part of a flotilla speeding south to San Diego, the destroyer base, were off their course and crashed head on into the rocks, one after another piling up before warning by the leaders could be given. There was a heavy fog all along the coast at the time. The destroyers wrecked were the Delphy, Young, S.P. Lee, Nicholas, Woodbury, Chauncey and Fuller. The destroyer squadron was under the command of Captain Edward H. Watson. The destroyers were wrecked at a point about a quarter of a mile from the Southern Pacific line and opposite the Honda section house. At 8:46p.m. the evening of September 8, John Giorvas, section foreman at Honda heard a crash and two minutes later heard another. He ran to the second story of his home and looking out of the window saw a light near shore. Taking his sixteen men he went to the beach and there saw a destroyer, later found to be the Chauncey, on the rocks. The shouts of the crew could be heard but no one could be seen. Giorvas ran back to the section house and telephoned to the operator at Surf, reporting the wreck. Returning to the beach he found that two more vessels were on the rocks and a little later discovered two more. It was not until towards morning that it was found that seven ships, all told, had been wrecked. Giorvas kept the operator at Surf informed of developments and acted quickly to get men from the destroyers ashore. In the meantime the information had been conveyed to Trainmaster T.J. Foley at San Luis Obispo who immediately made arrangements for the sending of doctors, surgical supplies, food, blankets, clothing, etc., to the scene of the wreck. He instructed the steam shovel gang under Foreman Tobin and the fence gang under Foreman Motis to proceed at once to Honda and render whatever assistance they could. Foley loaded the supplies and stretchers on the baggage car of the southbound Lark and went himself to Honda. Section Forman Giorvas, after reporting the wreck, threw a rope to the Delphy, which was the closest ship and the crew connected a heavy line which was pulled ashore. The line was lashed fast and some of the crew then started ashore. While Mr. Foley was making necessary arrangements at San Luis Obispo, Operator W. Pittman at Surf had notified two doctors who were brought to Honda in a section motor car by W.J. Maes, General Foreman, who had been notified by Giorvas. Maes also brought rope, pulleys and tools. Signal Maintainer Ace Reed followed in his motor. These men with the steam shovel and fence gangs worked with might and main to get the men ashore from the wrecked ships, giving them first aid, and building fires to keep them warm. Foreman Tobin's knowledge of the handling of rope and tackle was especially valuable. In rescuing some of the men washed off the ships Reed and Tobin plunged into the water to reach them. A high sea was running at the time, making rescue work difficult. As injured men were landed they were taken to the section house. Fourteen were sent to Santa Barbara on the Sunset Limited that morning. Lineman Maxwell, Dispatcher Watts, C. Benoit, secretary to Superintendent F.M. Worthington of the Coast Division, and Operator Pittman came over from Surf. They carried telegraph material from Honda to the section house and opened telegraphic communication. Trainmaster Foley, on arriving at Honda reported to Captain Watson, turning over the supplies and offering every assistance. With the arrival of Lineman Pierce, wires were cut in both upstairs and downstairs in the section house for the use of Western Union operators who arrived later in the day. Owing to the fog conditions communication was very difficult and during the early morning hours Southern Pacific wires were the only means of communication from the wreck to the outside world. The Telegraph Department men did fine work in getting messages through. Operator Pittman at Surf is given special commendation by Trainmaster Foley for the efforts he made to relay information through to San Luis Obispo from Honda before they were able to get the telegraph wires open. Extra Telegrapher J.M. Brom did good work at Honda. At San Francisco A. Keller, Night Chief Dispatcher was kept busy trying to maintain communication with the south, attending to his regular duties, getting messages to company officials, etc. He did good work, in spite of difficulties in notifying the navy yard officers at Mare Island, the Merchants Exchange at San Francisco and other people interested. It was at first thought that the initial reports referred to the wreck of the 'Cuba', a merchant ship which had been wrecked farther down the coast. Trainmaster Foley arranged for a special train to take the crews of the destroyers to San Diego, and with the Red Cross at Santa Barbara for the feeding of the men on their arrival at that point. The train ran through to San Diego, from Los Angeles over the Santa Fe, without change of equipment. The cars in the train were all well heated on their arrival at Honda so that the men were made comfortable after their long exposure. Forty-three Southern Pacific employes [sic] all told, gathered at the scene of the wreck and worked without thought of their own fatigue in doing whatever they could to asist [sic] the navy men. And ranking high in the list of those who did much in this work must be mentioned Mrs. Atkins, or 'Ma Atkins' as the sailors called her, with her coffee, her help in dressing wounds and her general willingness to do anything that would make the 'boys' comfortable. *********************************************************** Visit the Mahan Naval History Discussion List WebSite at: http://www.microworks.com/mahan for info on Subscribing/Unsubscribing and Digest and Links to other Sites of Naval Interest *********************************************************** Date: 10/27/13 08:26 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: livesteamer If I am not mistaken, the Navy disaster at Hondo changed naval destroyer tactics forever. Somewhere in my personal library is a history book written that covers the details of this disaster. I believe the lead destroyer made the initial wrong turn heading into the Santa Barbara channel and all other destroyers simply followed the leader as was the tactic in effect at the time.
Marty Harrison Knob Noster, MO Date: 10/27/13 09:52 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: kilroydiver You are correct. John Signor covered this disater briefly in his "Coast Line" book. The ships simply followed the leader, even though some crew felt it was the wrong course to take, but who is going to argue with authority?
Dave Date: 10/27/13 10:03 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: OldPorter I've never seen it and not sure if it's true, but I was told
that at certain conditions of very low tides, the "bones" of some of the wrecked ships can still be seen? The place is a very treacherous part of the ocean, due to the violent converging currents, tides and sharp rocks. Small boaters: beware of getting caught up in here! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/13 10:04 by OldPorter. Date: 10/27/13 10:40 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: espee4ever Thank you for sharing this, I had forgotten all about this incident. Here are a couple pics I found online searching for images. Very treacherous coastline, you can see the SP line in the google image.
—espee4ever Edit: Added Destroyer Rock image from Google Earth. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/13 15:27 by espee4ever. Date: 10/27/13 15:01 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: livesteamer During my first tour of duty assigned to Vandenberg AFB, I do remember going out to Hondo and seeing what certainly looked like the remains of a ship.
Marty Harrison Knob Noster, MO Date: 10/27/13 15:57 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: DNRY122 I remember seeing fragments of the wreckage when traveling south on the Daylight in 1959. One story about the disaster was that the radio operator or radio navigator on the flagship reported that his radio direction finding equipment had showed the ship's position was many miles north of where the traditional navigation had indicated, and tried to convince the officers of this, but the senior men apparently didn't trust the new apparatus, much to their sorrow. Visitors to the store/restaurant at the Jalama Beach campground will see photos of the 1923 event, which was about a dozen miles north of there. Back in 2004, my wife and I took an ocean cruise from Vancouver to San Pedro, and one of the significant point was sailing (actually motoring) south along the coast of California and making a noticeable turn to the port after passing Point Concepcion. It was afternoon, the weather was fine, and we had the advantage of 70 years of advances in navigation technology, but I still thought of the US Navy's taking the turn too soon.
Date: 10/28/13 22:10 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: SPLoopConductor Yes, good photos at the Jalama Store. My dad said it was known as the "Graveyard of the Pacific". In the early days of WW2 he was patrolling the beach, camped at Jalama, while in the Coast Guard. His dad, (my grandfather)would drop off fresh baked cakes and cookies to the guys at the camp. He was a Hoghead, and would drop the items off as he went by Jalama Beach. He set up a whistle code to let the guys know to run up to the tracks to get the goodies. My grandmother would bake for days before he made a 'coast' run, her own part of the war effort!
Take Care, Stay Safe, Have Fun! Larry Date: 11/03/13 17:34 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: tronarail I too was stationed at VAFB from 1973-77, and remember going to what was called, "Destroyer Rock." At that time, there was a portion of a ship's hull with the skeleton framework on the beach/rocks. It was then that I heard about the story of this naval disaster. Also, at the base of the large trestle near here, there was what appeared to be a section of boxcar roof with the running board buried in the sand. A "victim" of a strong wind gust in the early days?
Date: 11/05/13 11:28 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: jridge Was just on the base this Friday and Saturday at the location. There's a small marker overlooking the site. Was there within 30 minutes of low tide on both days and didn't see any remnants. It's a ruggedly beautiful place. Sure wish an SP streamliner in daylight colors would still be running that route.
Date: 11/05/13 15:53 Re: Disaster at Honda - The Southern Pacific Bulletin_, Author: doesyourdogbite A very interesting bit of history Psurveyor. Thanks for sharing.
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