Nostalgia & History > Sleeper Saturday: AT&SF Kiowa Tribe

In April and May 1940, Pullman rebuilt 7 Plan #3584 (various suffixes) 10 section-2 drawing room (10S-2DR) sleepers to Plan #4092 6 section-4 double bedroom-1 drawing room (6S-4DB-1DR) sleepers for the Santa Fe, specifically for assignment to the California Limited.  4 of the 7 cars which were rebuilt had been originally built in September 1929 in Lot #6284 to Plan #3584B for the Chief with Peak-series names; 1 of the 7 cars had originally been built in December 1924 in Lot #4836 to Plan #3584 with a Point-series name for the Santa Fe; and 2 of the 7 cars had originally been built in May 1926 in Lot #4961 with Point-series names for the general service pool.  One of the two cars from Lot #4961 was the Point Edward, which was rebuilt to the Kiowa Tribe.  6 of the 7 cars were withheld from lease in October 1962 and were subsequently sold to the CHP in Mexico; the Attakapa Tribe had been withheld from lease in September 1960 and transferred to the MofW department as #198621; no further disposition info.  Specifically, the Kiowa Tribe became CHP #510 Bahuichivo in 1963; no further disposition info.

Oh, and this is a duplicate Ektachrome slide; photographer, date, and location are unknown.

EDIT: taken in Denver in 1962.

As it's been almost four months since my last post in this series, so...

Here's a link to the previous post in this series, of GM&O Timothy B. Blackstone: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4096665

Here's a link to the following post in this series, of FW&D Castle Range: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4176758



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/19 00:03 by Rainier_Rails.

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Always enjoy you posts and the informative information you put with them.  May I question the 1940 date?  
That seems awfully late in the game for a heavyweight sleeper to be built.  You're probably right, but it does
seem odd.  Thanks for posting. 

Nick Tharalson,
Marion, IA

ntharalson Wrote:
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> Always enjoy you posts and the informative
> information you put with them.  May I question
> the 1940 date?  
> That seems awfully late in the game for a
> heavyweight sleeper to be built.  You're probably
> right, but it does
> seem odd.  Thanks for posting. 
>
> Nick Tharalson,
> Marion, IA

Key woord "rebuilt".

looks like denver union station, the 16st viaduct, 15st in background, and the platform for the Q freighthouse



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/16 08:16 by dan.

You have the most interesting and informative posts!
What a beautiful car!

Thanks to everyone for the replies!