Nostalgia & History > 3 SP Passenger Trains With Covered Wagons

These are Roger Puta's.

1. SP 6053, an E9A with Train 1, the Streamliner Sunset, at El Paso, TX on March 21, 1967 (note the "1" in the number board)

2. SP 6447, an FP7 with DR&W Train 18, the Rio Grande Zephyr at Becks, UT on May 19, 1970

3. SP 6461, an FP7 with an Amtrak San Joaquin at Fresno, CA in April 1974

Enjoy,
Marty Bernard



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/17 23:27 by MartyBernard.

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MartyBernard Wrote:
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> These are Roger Puta's.
>
> 1. SP 6053, an E9A with Train 1, the Streamliner
> Sunset, at El Paso, TX on March 21, 1967 (note the
> "1" in the number board)
>
> 2. SP 6446, an FP7 with DR&W Train 18, the Rio
> Grande Zephyr at Becks, UT on May 19, 1970
>
> 3. SP 6461, an FP7 with an Amtrak San Joaquin at
> Fresno, CA in April 1974
>
> Enjoy,
> Marty Bernard

No. 2  is the connecting train between the full RGZ at SLC and SP's COSF in Ogden.  Interesting that it was assigned an SP FP-7.  A good service that lasted but for an eye blink.

The train was the Sunset. SP did not use the name "Streamliner" like the UP did.

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA

WP-M2051 Wrote:

> No. 2  is the connecting train between the full
> RGZ at SLC and SP's COSF in Ogden.  Interesting
> that it was assigned an SP FP-7.  A good service
> that lasted but for an eye blink.

The SP unit was leased, as DRGW didn't have sufficient power for the connecting train, with the main Rio Grande Zephyr power being serviced in Salt Lake City.

Hey Fredo

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The SP did use the term streamliner when referring to the primer trains. The May 1966 Official Guide has the Sunset, Golen State, City of San Francisco, Cascade, Coast Daylight, Lark and San Joaquin /Sacramento Daylight called streamliners in the equipment sections.

cliff

MojaveBill Wrote:
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> The train was the Sunset. SP did not use the name
> "Streamliner" like the UP did.

Nice shots!  Picture 1: Old SP train crews, based at El Paso, worked El Paso-Tucson-El Paso. El Paso base enginemen worked El Paso-Lordberg-El Paso.

​According to the google maps, there is no such town as Becks, UT. Old SP(former D&RGW) T&E crews, based at Salt Lake City, worked Salt Lake-Ogden-Salt Lake.

​Picture 3: Old Santa Fe Railway train train crews, based at Richmond, CA and worked between Port Chicago and Bakersfield, CA. Santa Fe based engine crews based at Richmond and Fresno ans worked between Port Chicago and Fresno. Fresno enginemen worked to and from Bakersfield.



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Becks, Utah (per timetable) is just north of North Yard in Salt Lake, next to refinery...SHM

I believe that image 3 at Fresno would have Santa Fe crews as the Amtrak San Joaquin service ran (and still does) on the Santa Fe.
Thanks for sharing.

WP-M2051 Wrote:
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>
> No. 2  is the connecting train between the full
> RGZ at SLC and SP's COSF in Ogden.  Interesting
> that it was assigned an SP FP-7.  A good service
> that lasted but for an eye blink.

Yes, this is an extremely rare shot of a short-lived service.  Note that there is a Burlington (not Rio Grande) 10-6 on the rear as a last, sad remnant of the CZ in that it should be a through sleeper for Oakland via BN and D&RGW. 

MyfordBrowning Wrote:
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> The SP did use the term streamliner when referring
> to the primer trains. The May 1966 Official Guide
> has the Sunset, Golen State, City of San
> Francisco, Cascade, Coast Daylight, Lark and San
> Joaquin /Sacramento Daylight called streamliners
> in the equipment sections.
>
> cliff
>
> MojaveBill Wrote:
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> > The train was the Sunset. SP did not use the
> name
> > "Streamliner" like the UP did.

SP dropped the "streamliner" name from the Sunset around 1958.

railstiesballast Wrote:
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> I believe that image 3 at Fresno would have Santa
> Fe crews as the Amtrak San Joaquin service ran
> (and still does) on the Santa Fe.
> Thanks for sharing.

Santa Fe crews for the san Joaquin, IIRC, ran Richmond to Bakersfield

Streamliner was never part of No.s 1 & 2 name.  It was the Sunset Limited.  In late 50s - early 60s  [?]  after SP had combined 1 & 2 with 5 & 6 then later 3 & 4 the "Limited" was dropped and from then to the end it was just the Sunset. 

While the SP may not have used the term streamliner as strongly as the UP did domeliner/streamliner in connection with its trains, the SP did use streamliner with the name of their trains in their timetables. I have attach examples from the May 1966 issue of the Official Guide and a page from the SP system passenger timetable in 1959. It may be said that streamliner was not part of the trains name, just a discription, however the SP did call the train the streamliner Sunset in its timetable until the start up of Amtrak. The caption to the photo of the Sunset was right to call the train the Streamline Sunset.

Cliff


 

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