Nostalgia & History > Nickel Plate timebook memories

a fascinating set of timebooks i have,  that record trains on the Cleveland Division during the war and afterward that may be of interest

some interesting  personal notations on some of the pages can be found !

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1945 to 1947 are missing

Jan 43 train number !



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October 8-9 ...... off  necessary
October 29   ..... knickerbocker  NYC j1C 4-8-4 ?
November 25  ...must have been a bad day of sorts

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can anyone with a knowledge of the NKP tell me if any diesel electric locomotives are in these  workings?,



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I'm not an NKP expert but would assume that all the 700s are Berks and the 600s are H-6 Mikados.  There is a Hudson in there too. When did the NKP beef up the bridges on this section of the NKP, WWII? so the Berks could run here? There are some H-5 Mikados in there too.

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com
 



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bakersfielddave Wrote:
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> October 29   ..... knickerbocker

Curious! New York Central detour?

bakersfielddave Wrote:
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> can anyone with a knowledge of the NKP tell me if
> any diesel electric locomotives are in these 
> workings?,

not an expert, but I don't see any.

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> When did the NKP
> beef up the bridges on this section of the NKP,
> WWII? so the Berks could run here? 

Yep, according to Rehor.

I know this was discussed in an earlier thread, but for those who missed it:

116 - Conneaut, OH
184 - Cleveland, OH
206 - Sheffield, OH
248 - Bellevue, OH 
More notes :
On the 11/25 note, I think he was not real happy to be working on Thanksgiving! Looks like he took some time off to see the Cleveland Indians in the World Series in 1948.
There's a 503 engine that may be a Geep.
SLT = South Lorain Turn. CB12 was the hottest freight on the RR, Chicago - Buffalo. Alot of meat and perishables were shipped east from Chicago. Cleveland and Buffalo received much of their food through terminals served by NKP. IB64 came off the LE&W from Indianapolis, to Buffalo.



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halfmoonharold Wrote:
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> There's a 503 engine that may be a Geep.

Thanks for the additional notes.

GP9 #503 was not delivered until 1956. It must have been wrecked early, because 2nd 503 was delivered in 1957.

503 may have been a unlucky locomotive number on the Nickel Plate. Steamer 503 was wrecked in a head-on with No. 627 at Cleveland on October 18, 1941. It apparently got returned to service as it was renumbered 952 in January 1956.

I am still curious about the Knickerbocker. 5259 does not appear to be a NKP locomotive, but I believe NYC had a Hudson with that number.

Jack
 



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I'm thinking 503 was an H-5 Mikado and later the H-5s were remumbered to the 900 series when the first diesels came. But I stand to be corrected. Again, I'm not an NKP expert.

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhlilepublications.com