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Nostalgia & History > A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in MarcelineDate: 04/08/20 14:51 A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: SantaFeCF7 A EMC B-B is bringing one passenger train into town, and another train is also stopped here in Marceline. Date and photographer unknown. I found this image online about 7 or 8 years ago it came up in my Facebook memories today from where I originally shared it.
Date: 04/08/20 16:02 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: tgcostello Thanks CF7, quite a photo.
In Jerry Pinkepank's Diesel Spotter's Guide he indicates these (2) units were built in September 1935 and scrapped around 1952. Tim Costello Date: 04/08/20 16:52 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: KskidinTx My office used to be on the 2nd floor of the depot behind that 4 pained (sp) window. Thanks for the memories.
Mark Date: 04/08/20 16:53 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: MojaveBill I beleive they were rebuilt from Mutt and Jeff, the oriinal ATSF diesels. One was also used as a switcher for a while.
Ugly but interesting. Bill Deaver Tehachapi, CA Date: 04/08/20 17:36 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: KCRW287 Didn't 1 & 10 get rebuilt into E8B's? I might be thinking about a differnet set of ATSF power. KCRW287
Date: 04/08/20 17:49 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: MEKoch And the 2nd cook with his head out the diner door.....
Posted from iPhone Date: 04/09/20 00:44 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: needles_sub MojaveBill Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I beleive they were rebuilt from Mutt and Jeff, > the oriinal ATSF diesels. One was also used as a > switcher for a while. > Ugly but interesting. I have heard them refered to as Amos and Andy. Posted from Android Date: 04/09/20 05:19 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: Arved Wow! Don't see photos of that every day. Thanks for posting.
Arved Grass Fleming Island, FL Date: 04/09/20 07:31 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: texchief1 Thanks for posting that interesting shot!
Randy Lundgren Elgin, TX Date: 04/09/20 09:11 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: ntharalson Thanks for posting a very rare shot. While the depot/division office building still stands, and is a museum, the smaller building with the "LUNCH" sign is gone. Just a little update.
Nick Tharalson, Marion, IA Date: 04/09/20 14:33 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: 41 Judging by the automobiles, I'll guess early 1940s. Train is most likely Kansas Cityan (or Chicagoan).
Date: 04/09/20 22:28 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: sfsnake The lunch room "beanery" still stands as the railroad part of the museum.
Date: 04/10/20 12:58 Re: A Rare Black and White Warbonnet Wednesday in Marceline Author: Evan_Werkema Santa Fe had two of these turret-cab passenger locomotives, which they created in 1938 from the 1935-vintage EMD boxcabs 1A and 1B from the original Super Chief. The boxcabs were not Santa Fe's first diesels - Alco "HH600" switcher 2300 preceeded them by a few months. The turret cabs were numbers 1 and 10. The locomotive in the photo appears to be the 10, which had a horizontal rivet batten coincident with the noseband stripes, while 1 did not.
1: https://www.american-rails.com/images/CHGKSCYNDALS.jpg , https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12352270465/sizes/l , https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Santa_Fe_1_after_rebuild.jpg , https://www.flickr.com/photos/55122337@N06/25390483518 10: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/58403 , https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/58402/rec/10 , https://www.flickr.com/photos/55122337@N06/37044893863 , https://www.flickr.com/photos/55122337@N06/37684552202/in/photostream/ , https://www.flickr.com/photos/55122337@N06/37046195073/in/photostream/ The 10 was fairly short-lived in this configuration, losing its cab and becoming booster 1A in 1941, rebuilt again into boxcab "transfer" locomotive 2611 in 1948, and finally traded to EMD on E8Bm 84A in 1953. I would further guess that the photo is pre-1940, as by February of 1940, the 10-spot had been repainted without the vertical yellow stripe below the noseband. By the way, while the boxcabs were built as four-axle B-B locomotives, when Santa Fe rebuilt them into turret cabs, they gave the front trucks an unpowered pilot axle, creating a couple of rare 5-axle locomotives with a 1B-B wheel arrangement: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,3382966 In 1939, the railroad converted the rear trucks to 1B's as well, giving the units six axles but a 1B-1B wheel arrangement: https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,64395 |