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Date: 12/04/22 06:24
Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: gcm

Oct 76
Spending its 70 years (built 1906) in the New York area, what a surprise to see it at the Collinwood shops in Cleveland.
Even on the shady side an impressive old electric.
I'm not sure if it was saved and headed to a museum or if it was scrapped.

Gary




Date: 12/04/22 09:08
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: refarkas

How strange to find it there!
Bob



Date: 12/04/22 09:33
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: Lighter

Wasn't NYCentral electrified from Collinwood to Terminal Tower and then out the west side of Cleveland? That motor could have been working it's final days before the end of the electrification, and then abandoned.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/22 09:33 by Lighter.



Date: 12/04/22 09:49
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: DavidP

Lighter Wrote:
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> Wasn't NYCentral electrified from Collinwood to
> Terminal Tower and then out the west side of
> Cleveland? That motor could have been working it's
> final days before the end of the electrification,
> and then abandoned.

The CUT electric operation ended in the mid-1950s, with the motors sent east to work out of Grand Central.

Dave



Date: 12/04/22 09:59
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: gcm

Also the motors used in the Cleveland area were much larger.
Gary



Date: 12/04/22 10:03
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: SamRae

Also pretty sure the Cleveland Union Terminal overhead voltages and the Harmon-GCT voltages were different.  Anyway, a great artaifact for 1976 in Cleveland.

GFP



Date: 12/04/22 14:28
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: CPR_4000

Might be one of the two preserved at MOT in St Louis and IRM in Illinois.



Date: 12/04/22 18:30
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: Evan_Werkema

CPR_4000 Wrote:

> Might be one of the two preserved at MOT in St Louis and IRM in Illinois.

PC 4710 was built as NYC 110.  The units still in existence are NYC 113 at MOT in St. Louis and NYC 115 (later PC 4713) at IRM, plus S-1 #6000 (later 100) waiting to be saved again in New York.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Central_S-Motor
https://tnmot.org/the-collection/
https://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi?eloco=Penn+Central=4715
https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/museum-works-to-save-two-rare-new-york-central-electric-locomotives/
https://files.constantcontact.com/eebf43f1601/fc93204b-5d5c-4d3c-aef9-5a613ab79f5a.pdf



Date: 12/04/22 19:51
Re: Ex-NYC electric S2 4710 at - surprise - Collinwood
Author: Lackawanna484

The Terminal Tower complex in Cleveland was constructed in the late teens and early 1920s.  The Library of Congress has an extensive gallery of construction pictures of the station's public rooms, underground rail platforms, etc

https://www.loc.gov/resource/hhh.oh1517.photos/?sp=136



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