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Nostalgia & History > Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353Date: 04/28/24 09:34 Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: refarkas Date: 04/28/24 11:00 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: texchief1 Nice shot, Bob!
texchief1 Date: 04/28/24 11:02 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: MacBeau That is one well used GP. Thanks for the look.
—Mac Date: 04/28/24 11:11 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: brc600 These GP18's were used on Rock Trustee specials 1980-84 in the Chicago-Council Bluffs part of the system. Notice freshly washed 1337. Class one does not see on today's RR's.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/24 11:18 by brc600. Date: 04/28/24 11:34 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: Milwaukee Still wearing it's original paint scheme given by EMD in 1961. I believe it is still in good shape running as Florida Central RR's 59.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/24 11:36 by Milwaukee. Date: 04/28/24 18:44 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: wcamp1472 What's the wording of the white-letters in
the stancil undsr the cab? W. Date: 04/28/24 21:58 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: Ritzville MacBeau Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > That is one well used GP. Thanks for the look. > —Mac I'll second that! Larry Date: 04/28/24 22:46 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: refarkas The words in white look like "cab heater drain inside."
Bob Date: 04/29/24 00:42 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: wcamp1472 Wow, that would make sense!
The Rock, near the end ( during winters) ha a lot of incidents of main line trains getting stuck by traffic problems—— often hitting the 12-hour limit of hours- of~service law. Early diesel locos had engine coolant hot water radiators for heat in loco cabs…. Most locos came from the factory witout valves in the cab heater lines. Away from the heat of the engine block, the copper lines in the cab often froze—- if an idling engine ran out of fuel. It became common , about 1970 that manufacturers supplied locos with electric cab heaters and water temperature ‘dump valves’, that opened to drain the engine coolant, when the coolant reached 40~degrees. The only time such conditions occurred was during shut-downs, mostly because of running out of fuel… So, this label indicates locos fitted with shut-off valves in cab heater supply lines. Many crews, when leaving locos idling, when they ‘outlawed’ and were taxied to relief points or motels, etc. They left engines running, to keep warm —- too often standing locos ran out of fuel…. Cab heater drains were added, account of the supply pipes retaining coolant, even though the “blocks” and radiators might get drained, automatically. And, most RRs did NOT use engine anti-freeze, although they always added coolant treated with anti-corrosion coolant additives: yellow for chromate, purple for bromate-based additives. Engine coolant capacity was several hundred gallons, abd anti.freeze in large loco fleets were too expensive, in the quantities needed, and first generation EMD’s became notorious for power assemblies leaking water. Earlier EMD’s had lower cylinder large diameter water seals. The entire cylinder assembly, including the pistons is called the “power assembly” —- an engine might have 16 to 20 power assemblies. Later EMD power assemblies were cooled by a direct pipe connection, eliminating lower, large diameter 0-rings. Also, electric cab heaters became a factory option RRs could elect with new orders. Crews were not often requested to protect locos, left running, so the cab heater valves were not on every loco, so the signs were added, late in the game. Crews were often given written rules about leaving abandoned locos and opening the cab heater drain valves, when shutting-down standing & idling engines. That’s why the stencil… More recent locos are all fitted with ‘electric’ cab heaters; no water lines .., and they’re fitted with the temperature sensitive “cold-water dump valves” Cabooses often also had manual drain valves, also.. W. Posted from iPhone Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/24 00:48 by wcamp1472. Date: 04/29/24 04:15 Re: Forty or More Years Ago - Rock Island 1353 Author: refarkas Thank you, wcamp, for such a thorough explanation of that little white stencil. This information is fascinating.
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