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Date: 04/15/25 09:44
RGZ for a Utah location
Author: santafe199

Judging by the highway sign giving mileage figures I’m going to take a weak stab at Soldier Summit for this location. But I’m not very sure about it. The sign reads: Price 24 & Denver 444. With this info I did some reverse engineering, so to speak. I did one of the distance between “A & B” searches using Denver & Price, UT. Perfect! Then I went to Google Maps and took another stab at following the DRGW main line to about 24 miles northwest of Price. That put me reasonably near Soldier Summit. But I don’t have a D&RGW timetable available, and there might be an actual ETT location to use. So I will wait for an expert to weigh in...

1. D&RGW 5771 leas the Rio Grande Zephyr near Colton, UT* on September 11, 1980.
Original Kodachrome trader slide by Jim Aldridge, from the late James W. Watson collection.

Thanks for the help!
Lance Garrels
santafe199

*I got some expert tutelage, thank very much! :^)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/25 10:44 by santafe199.




Date: 04/15/25 09:51
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: BigSkyBlue

Racing across the single track between Colton and Soldier Summit westbound.  The second track had been taken up as an economy move but was restored by D&RGW in the early 80's.  Two tracks remain today in spite of much reduced traffic.  BSB



Date: 04/15/25 09:53
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: 3rdswitch

Nice shot. 24 miles puts this shot near Colton, UT, on the Rio Grande 6th Subdivision.
JB



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/25 10:19 by 3rdswitch.



Date: 04/15/25 10:06
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: swaool

Right about here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QszUbHQa4dCYoD7n7

A bit over a mile west of Colton UT.

mike woodruff
north platte ne



Date: 04/15/25 10:56
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: santafe199

3rdswitch Wrote: > ... 24 miles puts this shot near Colton, UT ...
swaool Wrote: > ... Right about here:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/QszUbHQa4dCYoD7n7 ...

Thanks JB! And thanks Mike, for another street view. Just off hand, I'd say there's a fair chance that Mr Aldridge spotted the headlight and just jumped out ASAP to shoot a sequence... :^)

Lance



Date: 04/15/25 11:17
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: XE-50W

swaool Wrote:
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>
> A bit over a mile west of Colton UT.
>
> mike woodruff
> north platte ne

Correct, then-D&RGW’s № 17 W/b ‟RGZ” was approaching
the Utah highway № 96 grade-crossing (thus the distance 
signs to Price and Denver, Colo. along SW side of US № 6) 
and was on their Utah Division’s Subdivision 6 (ref.p.8 in
System Time-Table № 4 eff.Feb. 24, 1980) near M/p 645.8
about 1⅖ mi.W/b (geographic NW;  double-track then ended
about 3 to 4 car-lengths W/b beyond crossing) from Colton.

Pilot on their F-9A #9771 was in the vicinity of Lat.:  39° 51'
39" N;  Long.:  111° 1' 35" W, w/in the SW¼-SW¼ of Section
15, T-11-S, R-8-E, S.L.M. in the SE corner of Utah County,
UT.  Also № 17 was due-out of Helper @ 18:20-MT Mon-
Thur-Sat (ibid.), and thus should have been in that locale
about 19:00+MT (e.g.:  7P-MT, 9/11/1980 was a Thursday)
w/a 60MPH track speed.



Date: 04/15/25 21:03
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: koloradokid

XE-50W Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> swaool Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > A bit over a mile west of Colton UT.
> >
> > mike woodruff
> > north platte ne
>
> Correct, then-D&RGW’s № 17 W/b ‟RGZ” was
> approaching
> the Utah highway № 96 grade-crossing (thus the
> distance 
> signs to Price and Denver, Colo. along SW side of
> US № 6) 
> and was on their Utah Division’s Subdivision 6
> (ref.p.8 in
> System Time-Table № 4 eff.Feb. 24, 1980) near
> M/p 645.8
> about 1⅖ mi.W/b (geographic NW;  double-track
> then ended
> about 3 to 4 car-lengths W/b beyond crossing) from
> Colton.
>
> Pilot on their F-9A #9771 was in the vicinity of
> Lat.:  39° 51'
> 39" N;  Long.:  111° 1' 35" W, w/in the
> SW¼-SW¼ of Section
> 15, T-11-S, R-8-E, S.L.M. in the SE corner of Utah
> County,
> UT.  Also № 17 was due-out of Helper @ 18:20-MT
> Mon-
> Thur-Sat (ibid.), and thus should have been in
> that locale
> about 19:00+MT (e.g.:  7P-MT, 9/11/1980 was a
> Thursday)
> w/a 60MPH track speed.

And after all that, Just " A bit over a mile west of Colton UT"!!

RR



Date: 04/16/25 06:14
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: KA7008

Interesting - looks like the silver was repainted on 5771.



Date: 04/16/25 09:05
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: BlaineM

How about the exact location?  Just prior to  crossing the Highways #6 and #96 to Schofield?



Date: 04/16/25 21:22
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: atsf121

Great shot.  I have a photo somewhere of a loaded Utah Railway coal train at roughly that same spot.  I was headed to Helper and spotted the train, so flipped a U to that crossing and setup for the shot.  And then chased the train to the Summit and watched the manned helpers get removed.  And then I was crazy enough to follow it all the way down to Spanish Fork, maybe even to Provo.  While that was cool, the RGZ sure is cooler!

Nathan



Date: 04/17/25 09:07
Re: RGZ for a Utah location
Author: santafe199

atsf121 Wrote: > ... And then I was crazy enough to follow it all the way down to Spanish Fork, maybe even to Provo ...

Sounds perfectly normal to me! But then, I might be one of those crazy railfans who chase trains around with a camera...

;^)



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