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Date: 12/28/08 15:11
D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: eminence_grise

In 1968, Bruce Sterzing spruced up to New York City to Montreal passenger service by purchasing passenger cars off the Rio Grande and PA1 locomotives from the ATSF.

The New York Central Adirondack Division extended almost to Montreal. Here is the northbound NYC freight behind NYC FA 1071 waiting at Adirondack Junction to enter the CP line across the St.Lawrence River and into CP's Cote St.Luc yard.

The D&H southbound passenger train will travel over CP tracks to Delson (DELaware and hudSON) where it will go onto its own tracks.

Just north of the US/Canada Border, the D&H built an impressive station and customs house at Lacolle QC. Here we see the northbound dropping off customs officers at Lacolle. The fuel pump is interesting, obviously meant for locomotive use.
Did the D&H sometimes fuel up in Canada when fuel was cheaper ?. Note the concrete Milepost 9 of the Napierville Junction Railway beside the locomotive.



Date: 12/28/08 17:29
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: erie833

Sweet shots ! Does that customs station still exist today?

Roger



Date: 12/28/08 17:33
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: kgmontreal

The station still exists but is boarded up and suffering from the weather and the pigeons.

KG



Date: 12/28/08 17:34
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: eminence_grise

The station is still there, but is not occupied.



Date: 12/28/08 20:02
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: aehouse

eminence_grise Wrote:
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> In 1968, Bruce Sterzing spruced up to New York
> City to Montreal passenger service by purchasing
> passenger cars off the Rio Grande and PA1
> locomotives from the ATSF.
>
>
It was D&H President Buck Dumaine who brought the PAs and former D&RGW passenger cars to the D&H in 1968, not Bruce Sterzing. Sterzing came soon thereafter when N&W, through its Dereco subsidiary, took over both D&H and EL. Mr. Sterzing was president of the D&H at the time of the reintroduction of passenger service in 1974, when he got New York State to fund the equipping of the new Amtrak Adirondack with rebuilt PAs, refurbished D&H passenger equipment and leased CP domes.

Art House



Date: 12/30/08 21:01
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: davew833

It should be noted too that Sterzing had to get back the PA's from GE, where they had been traded in, before sending them off the Morrison-Knudsen to be rebuilt into PA4's. Fortunately, GE was more accommodating about releasing trade-in locos than EMD was, or we might have no PA's remaining today.



Date: 12/31/08 06:53
Re: D&H and NYC Alco's in Canada
Author: Lackawanna484

eminence_grise Wrote:
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> (snip) The fuel pump is
> interesting, obviously meant for locomotive use.
> Did the D&H sometimes fuel up in Canada when fuel
> was cheaper ?. Note the concrete Milepost 9 of the
> Napierville Junction Railway beside the
> locomotive.

I'd suspect the old tax treaties between the US and Canada required import taxes on fuel "imported" inside a locomotive. As long as you left with the same amount of fuel you arrived with, you'd be OK. A few US states still require a measurement of truck fuels on entering and leaving, precisely to eliminate this fuel tax arbitrage and collect tax on fuel used on their highways. I'm sure some of the older railroad accounting experts may have experience with fuel tax adjustments.

Thanks for presenting these wonderful pictures.



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