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Date: 01/03/19 18:31
CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: DrawingroomA

From reports on Twitter it appears VIA is operating a "bus bridge" between Winnipeg and Melville. This is the one day of the week both "Canadians" are due in Winnipeg.

This is from the Winnipeg Free Press:

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/two-trains-jack-knife-derail-near-portage-la-prairie-503863922.html
 



Date: 01/03/19 19:17
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: xcnsnake

Side collision just East of Portage la Prairie approx 0930 January 3.



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Date: 01/04/19 00:03
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: BigSkyBlue

I suppose detouring VIA on CP is out of the question?
BSB

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Date: 01/04/19 04:44
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: railsmith

BigSkyBlue Wrote:
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> I suppose detouring VIA on CP is out of the
> question?

There would be no point. There was a 27-car derailment in CP's Upper Spiral Tunnel at 10:10 a.m. on January 3 and the route might be closed until next Tuesday, January 8.



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Date: 01/04/19 05:34
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: joemvcnj

What happens when a railroad wrecks another railroad's locomotive ?



Date: 01/04/19 07:57
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: The-late-EMD

Bean counters get involved then the insurance guys show up, you know just like an involving and another person/company.

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Date: 01/04/19 08:04
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: LKeithR

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> What happens when a railroad wrecks another
> railroad's locomotive ?

I think the protocol has always been that when one railroad is using the track of another road the "guest" railroad is
always responsible for damage to tracks or structures.  Accordingly the guest railroad would also be responsible for
damage to its own equipment.  As far as I know this is standard AAR practice.  Two railroads may have a special
agreement with regard to situations like this but if no special agreement exists the standard practice prevails...

Keith Robertson
Langley, BC



Date: 01/04/19 08:14
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: BigSkyBlue

railsmith Wrote:
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> BigSkyBlue Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I suppose detouring VIA on CP is out of the
> > question?
>
> There would be no point. There was a 27-car
> derailment in CP's Upper Spiral Tunnel at 10:10
> a.m. on January 3 and the route might be closed
> until next Tuesday, January 8.

The post above said the CN derailment was east of Portage la Prairie. I was only suggesting CP from Portage to Winnipeg. BSB

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Date: 01/04/19 10:50
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: tomstp

The operating railroad pays for the damage.  If the engine or car is a total loss there is a evaluation table setting the value of the destroyed item which the wrecking railroad pays to the other railroad.



Date: 01/04/19 11:38
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: hoggerdoug

I thing the 7371 is a leased unit.
Doug



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Date: 01/04/19 11:50
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: Mberry

hoggerdoug Wrote:
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> I thing the 7371 is a leased unit.
> Doug

Indeed, this is a GECX unit, no longer belonging to CSX.

Michael



Date: 01/04/19 21:03
Re: CN Derailment delays the Canadian near Winnipeg
Author: norm1153

tomstp Wrote:
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> The operating railroad pays for the damage.  If
> the engine or car is a total loss there is a
> evaluation table setting the value of the
> destroyed item which the wrecking railroad pays to
> the other railroad.

Indeed.  I briefly worked for the New York Central Railroad in Manhatten, back in 1964.  My workplace was a wooden desk with just two things on it: A manual typewriter and a Dictaphone player.  My desk was one of about a dozen desks in a large un-air conditioned room, in a building long gone, at 466 Lexington Avenue.The rows of desks all faced the front, where several employees were going through stacks of paper forms, and dictating appropriate letters, that we would transcribe.  That was the only topic -- damage to foreign-owned equpment.  All essentially just form letters.  The job was really a sweatshop-style kind of thing, but we got the work done.



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