Canadian Railroads > Update to Late Via #2

Continuing the post from yesterday, we have just arrived in Jasper about 2pm local time some 6 hours late. 
But we are not the only pssenger train in the station. A very very very late #1 is in the station being serviced and we waiting to back into the station once #1 leaves.

So how late is #1. scheduled departure time is 19:30 FRIDAY.

WP17

Photos to follow soon

21 hrs. according to transitdocs. Even if they left Toronto 11 hours late, how the hell can they be 21 hours late given the 12 hours recently added to the schedule on top of all the additional time added years ago when they went to the four night out schedule (now often 5 nights).

When is VIA management or the Canadian government going to start holding CN accountable to their actions. VIA is a customer of CN and deserves to be treated better.  The schedule can be achieved as was the case of the Moonlighter's train last year. And that was on the old schedule. Geez, what a way to run a business. 

Speaking as a Canadian taxpayer our government has far more important and pressing national issues to attend to then the timing/schedule of TWO passenger trains.

-Trevor

tsokolan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Speaking as a Canadian taxpayer our government has
> far more important and pressing national issues to
> attend to then the timing/schedule of TWO
> passenger trains.
>
> -Trevor

Well put Trevor. I'm not a Canadian citizen or taxpayer. I doubt if Anderson109 is either. 

While I'm not a Canadian citizen, I am a frequent paying passenger on the train and expect the hose railroad CN to provide an acceptable level of service. While in this case, it was VIA's problem with locomotive issues, seeing the train regularly 12 to 20hrs. late isn't due to some accident. itIs deliberate shoddy treatment by the host railroad.Why they continue to runs more trains than they have capacity for is beyond me. 

tsokolan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Speaking as a Canadian taxpayer our government has
> far more important and pressing national issues to
> attend to then the timing/schedule of TWO
> passenger trains.

It is an indicator of poor freight transportation by CN, which does affect your economy, commerce, and corporate well being of shippers.

ANd here are several photos of this unusual meet

WP17 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Continuing the post from yesterday, we have just
> arrived in Jasper about 2pm local time some 6
> hours late. 
> But we are not the only pssenger train in the
> station. A very very very late #1 is in the
> station being serviced and we waiting to back into
> the station once #1 leaves.
 

---

---

---

and one more showing how we ran by #1 and then backed tail to tail

 

---

super cool pics, more please!

WP 17, is #2 now being held as a result of th crude train derailment near the SK - MB border?

https://asm.transitdocs.com/map

seems so  edit now doing 81mph



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/19 12:34 by dan.

joemvcnj Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> It is an indicator of poor freight transportation
> by CN, which does affect your economy, commerce,
> and corporate well being of shippers.

No it's not. CN keeps the freight moving, and since a 10.000 foot freight train fits in less sidings then a passenger train, the VIA service gets lower priority. The company I work for uses both CN and CP to ship product, and they make an excellent profit without complaint of customer service.

-Trevor

viatrainrider Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WP 17, is #2 now being held as a result of th
> crude train derailment near the SK - MB border?

I doubt that the derailment impacted us any more or less than the large number of CN freights that have come by in both directions. We were told that CN is opening the line early this afternoon so that should ensure we eventually get to Winnipeg.
We recently departed our long stay at Ryley AB, after waiting for engine recrewing. Not sure how far we will get before we have to wait for more westbounds.

WP17



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/19 12:15 by WP17.

tsokolan Wrote:

> No it's not. CN keeps the freight moving, and
> since a 10.000 foot freight train fits in less
> sidings then a passenger train, the VIA service
> gets lower priority. The company I work for uses
> both CN and CP to ship product, and they make an
> excellent profit without complaint of customer
> service.
>
They do huh ? Since some sidings don't fit their long trains, they spend hours breaking them up on two sidings for passing meets with other monster freight trains and putting them back together. 

https://www.producer.com/2019/01/freight-embargoes-were-necessary-justified-cn/

https://globalnews.ca/news/4873508/canadian-railways-congestion/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/19 12:30 by joemvcnj.

Making passing sidings longer in length was supposed to have been a priority of CN - on the transcontinental mainline and trackage between Jasper and Prince Rupert. This is needed more for general fluiduty of the railroad, not the two day a week Canadian passenger train or the three day a week Skeena (train to Prince Rupert).            

PSR means they are running the railroad they wish they had but too cheap to build, not the railroad they have. 

Train # 1 of Saturday (2/16) is currently running 24 +/- hours late, which would put its arrival into Vancouver at 18:00 on Thursday the 21st.  If this were to hold, would the 18 hours between arrival and departure as # 2 on Friday the 22nd, be sufficient to service and turn the train, and for the crew to have adequate rest time?