European Railroad Discussion > "Why Britain's hated Pacer trains just won't go away"

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/pacer-trains-uk/index.html

We've come to love our little Pacers in the north of England!! A couple of local photos of mine. Remember the competitions of student days - how many people can you fit in a phone box or a Mini? 
We play 'how many people can you fit ina Pacer'!! Another photo approaching Wakefield.
It's turning ouyt the new trains replacing Pacers are on 1/6th as reliable. Plus, quite a few Pacers are being snapped up for service on preservation lines. They are very cheap to run.  Chris UK.
 

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It'll be a great day when these sad excuses for a train disappear from the network.

Wow!  That's one nice reflection shot.

Here are two sets, one a trio the other a pair, off to the knackers yard, in this case Sims Metals in Newport Docks. Our Transport for Wales examples should follow in mid summer. So far Sims have scrapped 14 of Northern's fleet.

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86235 Wrote:
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> Here are two sets, one a trio the other a pair,
> off to the knackers yard, in this case Sims Metals
> in Newport Docks. Our Transport for Wales examples
> should follow in mid summer. So far Sims have
> scrapped 14 of Northern's fleet.

Is there a way to trace which ones have been scrapped?

That is almost too funny, they are powering themselves to their end.

Sharon Evans
Glen Allen, VA

railsmith Wrote:
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> 86235 Wrote:
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> > Here are two sets, one a trio the other a pair,
> > off to the knackers yard, in this case Sims
> Metals
> > in Newport Docks. Our Transport for Wales
> examples
> > should follow in mid summer. So far Sims have
> > scrapped 14 of Northern's fleet.
>
> Is there a way to trace which ones have been
> scrapped?


142.042, 016 and 066 in the first picture 142.034 and 046 in the second.

RNinRVR Wrote:
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> That is almost too funny, they are powering
> themselves to their end.

Something many, many diesels have done over the years.

86235 Wrote:
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> railsmith Wrote:
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> > 86235 Wrote:
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> > > Here are two sets, one a trio the other a
> pair,
> > > off to the knackers yard, in this case Sims
> > Metals
> > > in Newport Docks. Our Transport for Wales
> > examples
> > > should follow in mid summer. So far Sims have
> > > scrapped 14 of Northern's fleet.
> >
> > Is there a way to trace which ones have been
> > scrapped?
>
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> 142.042, 016 and 066 in the first picture 142.034
> and 046 in the second.

Thanks. If you ever get word of 142 049 being scrapped, I'd appreciated hearing of it, either here or by PM. I do understand that it has been withdrawn.

Why am I interested in that particular unit?  Because it visited Canada in 1986 before it went into revenue service in Britain and operated a special service in the Greater Vancouver region during the course of Expo 86, the World's Fair.  Even Margaret Thatcher came out to have a look at it, and we all know how much she liked trains.

I'm the editor of a railway publication in British Columbia and will run the news of the scrapping when I've had a reliable report of that.

railsmith Wrote:
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> Thanks. If you ever get word of 142 049 being
> scrapped, I'd appreciated hearing of it, either
> here or by PM. I do understand that it has been
> withdrawn.
>
> Why am I interested in that particular unit? 
> Because it visited Canada in 1986 before it went
> into revenue service in Britain and operated a
> special service in the Greater Vancouver region
> during the course of Expo 86, the World's Fair. 
> Even Margaret Thatcher came out to have a look at
> it, and we all know how much she liked trains.
>
> I'm the editor of a railway publication in British
> Columbia and will run the news of the scrapping
> when I've had a reliable report of that.

I'm sorry to report it and 142 042 were scrapped at Kingsbury, near Tamworth in the West Midlands, on January 28th.

86235 Wrote:
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> railsmith Wrote:
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> > Thanks. If you ever get word of 142 049 being
> > scrapped, I'd appreciated hearing of it, either
> > here or by PM. I do understand that it has been
> > withdrawn.
> >
> > Why am I interested in that particular unit? 
> > Because it visited Canada in 1986 before it
> went
> > into revenue service in Britain and operated a
> > special service in the Greater Vancouver region
> > during the course of Expo 86, the World's
> Fair. 
> > Even Margaret Thatcher came out to have a look
> at
> > it, and we all know how much she liked trains.
> >
> > I'm the editor of a railway publication in
> British
> > Columbia and will run the news of the scrapping
> > when I've had a reliable report of that.
>
> I'm sorry to report it and 142 042 were scrapped
> at Kingsbury, near Tamworth in the West Midlands,
> on January 28th.

Thanks for the update. I'd managed to photograph it at Manchester Piccadilly in July 2007. I'd hoped for a ride, but it was stopped out of service at the platform, which at least allowed me a good look inside. It still had the original bus seats. I looked as much as I could to see if there was any acknowledgement of its overseas adventures, in the manner of the plaques carried by London RT buses that had gone abroad, but could see nothing.

The visit to Expo 86 has been discussed before on Trainorders:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?17,3980769,3980769#msg-3980769



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/20 23:22 by railsmith.

exhaustED Wrote:
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> It'll be a great day when these sad excuses for a
> train disappear from the network.


I’ll see you on the 23/02/20 for Pacer Day, possibly the first 142 workings in preservation in the best county in England then........

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