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European Railroad Discussion > Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge?Date: 11/15/21 12:07 Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: K6XLT Interesting article in the NYT today "Inside the Struggle to Save Bulgaria’s Last Narrow-Gauge Railroad"
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/15/travel/bulgaria-narrow-gauge-railway.html" - caveat - may be behind a paywall. Craig Date: 11/15/21 13:23 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: Graybeard1942 Nice photos included...
Date: 11/15/21 13:40 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: Train29 We rode the full length of the line on a photo charter in 2014. There were frequent service trains that seemed well patronized. A two lane winding road followed the railway much of the way. There appeared to be lots of poverty in the area that depended on the railway for various reasons. Hope the line is saved.
Date: 11/15/21 18:09 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: Lackawanna484 Nice article. The part about the coal fired narrow gauge steam engine was intriguing.
Here's a link to the map of the line mentioned in the article https://tesnolineikata.wixsite.com/home/route Date: 11/16/21 04:00 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: pennengineer It's a good article with nice photos; hopefully it will inspire some intrepid non-railfan tourists to seek the line out.
Back in 2009 I travelled for the first time by train from Munich via Bucharest to Istanbul along with nine of my collegues from Deutsche Bahn. Retracing the route of the Orient Express had been a dream of mine since childhood, and I couldn't for the life of me understand why half of our group opted to accompany us only as far as Plovdiv, Bulgaria, whereupon they headed west to visit the Rhodopenbahn (as the Germans call it) instead of east and onward to Istanbul (what more alluring destination could there be?) like the rest of us. On my return trip to Munich via Sofia and Belgrade I travelled alone (my collegues had only taken two weeks' time off and therefore had to fly back) and recall seeing the narrow gauge equipment as my mainline train stopped in Septemvri. Only later did I come to understand how special and revered that little railway actually is. I travelled through Bulgaria to Turkey once more in 2011 but still haven't made it to the Rhodopenbahn. I hope to do so soon -- ideally combining it with a mainline steam trip in Bulgaria (their small collection of operating locomotives are among the handsomest in Europe, in my opinion). Date: 11/16/21 05:46 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: Lackawanna484 The Viking river cruises, among others, offer Budapest to Bucharest cruising. This little railroad sounds like a nice add on.
The writer alluded to the need for a native speaking guide in some areas, prob not a bad idea. Posted from Android Date: 11/19/21 12:06 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: gobbl3gook Interesting! I'll try to visit if I ever get to that part of Europe.
A few maps: The whole line jumps out nicely on OpenRailwayMaps https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lat=42.05133213230167&lon=23.728408813476562&zoom=10 On OpenTopoMap that line jumps out clearly. You can see it runs south out of a valley in the north, up a deep canyon in the mountains, then climbes the canyon walls, with horseshoe curves where it enters, then comes back out of side canyons. https://opentopomap.org/#map=12/42.0975/-335.9211 Then, further up in the mountains, it climbs the face of a mountainside with a set of big switchback loops, with lots of minor horseshoe curves within the larger loops. https://opentopomap.org/#map=13/42.03642/-336.17975 Very impressive when zoomed in... https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/42.04002/-336.14984 Topography shows up better on Opentopomap than mapy... https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.8468527&y=42.0397448&z=15 Looks very impressive on OpenRailwayMap, too. But you don't get a sense of the surrounding topography. https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lat=42.05133213230167&lon=23.728408813476562&zoom=10 On Mapy the narrow gauge line only shows up when zoomed in pretty far. https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=24.1073596&y=42.1212221&z=14 But, once you find the line you can easily follow it. Mapy always uploads fast. Opentopomap usually uploads slow. As usual, it is impossible to find or follow the line on Google Maps. But after you locate the line and its relation to towns and highways on the other maps, you can find Google StreetView images where major roads are within sight of the tracks. Train station in Velingrad being renovated in 2012 https://goo.gl/maps/3z7fCy6BVyT9DV7N8 Grade crossing in Velingrad https://goo.gl/maps/39HEvfhcwtuzaa7n7 Trackside scene https://goo.gl/maps/fBgJDRBffkodfgZG6 Grade crossing deep in a canyon. (Road looks okay for bicycling, but not great...) https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=24.0858161&y=42.0977340&z=17 https://goo.gl/maps/Vc63r8ZNejLJM2qk9 Train station after the big zig-zaggy, loopy climb. https://goo.gl/maps/r3BhBBg6QvJdxA9SA https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.8202345&y=42.0358961&z=16 The tracks and road run parallel for a few kiometres here, but this was the only StreetView image where I could see the tracks... https://goo.gl/maps/CRfgVeNU54ajGbdg6 Overpass and underpass. In proximity to two full 360 degree loops. https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.7435877&y=42.0381113&z=15 https://goo.gl/maps/P7UyPkYUUt9Txu4F9 https://goo.gl/maps/pgPwBBGa2t3TUMdD6 Train station in Cherna Mesta, hidden in the trees along the highway https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.7270599&y=42.0500388&z=18 https://goo.gl/maps/3rqcztxMPNZ43tM78 Grade crossing and yard in Yakoruda (nice Lada station wagon, too) https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.6733943&y=42.0238505&z=17 Tracks and road in close proximity in another canyon. The road looks very narrow,. And the tracks miniature! https://goo.gl/maps/wDD6173NfRrYhbVq5 https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.5610366&y=41.8916290&z=16 https://goo.gl/maps/YQbHNFUrse2qCf18A Southern terminus of the line, Dobronishte https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lat=41.824516699746596&lon=23.567830324172974&zoom=16 https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=23.5608434&y=41.8249696&z=16 https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/41.82480/-336.43308 https://goo.gl/maps/wn2PUjN48vxpyLfu6 https://goo.gl/maps/FAC6X6ZaGhMYtRWi9 https://goo.gl/maps/WvtTYD4b5yEf7YuD6 Edit -- Also -- interchange yard with the mainline. Lots of Soviet-era cranes -- for changing out trucks? Seemes unlikely that a 2' guage line could handle standard gauge cars... Doing something else? https://goo.gl/maps/usL8ZKnDEDG6T4wG9 https://goo.gl/maps/E8BcAxdoZNhDNL2b9 https://goo.gl/maps/ELt9j8cyb4kYtfTYA https://goo.gl/maps/D4dbS1CKZ7wXJ2df6 https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lat=42.20318558229704&lon=24.12824034690857&zoom=16 https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2039492,24.1298805,896m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=24.1286563&y=42.2032384&z=17 https://opentopomap.org/#map=17/42.20295/-335.87323 (Narrow gauge and standard gauge lines show in a different width) Very interesting! A fun route to ride on way on a train, ride the other way on a bicycle. Or continue south into Greece by bicycle... Ted in OR Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/21 21:13 by gobbl3gook. Date: 11/19/21 13:51 Re: Bulgaria's Last Narrow Gauge? Author: 86235 It's been on my bucket list for a number of years, I think it needs moving up the priorities.
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