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Date: 01/02/21 12:03
Dragging rail Question
Author: gonx

For those who worked MoW trains: Did you ever drag ribbon rail between the gauge?

Seems like a lot could go wrong if the cable snapped.




Date: 01/02/21 12:53
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: WAF

Wouldn't be tied down on one end? What year is this?



Date: 01/02/21 13:18
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: PCCRNSEngr

Dragged many pieces of rail and couple time over twenty miles and that was with no road crossings..With a road crossing slowed down to make sure the base of the rail would not get caught on the road surface. Caught the second day of one job and after getting moving picked the speed right up with no problem. The Foreman was happy as we did twice the rail than the Engineer on the first day. On sharp curves could watch some sparks when the rail touched spike heads.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/21 13:19 by PCCRNSEngr.



Date: 01/02/21 14:39
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: 2-10-2

Coming down through Blue Cut in Cajon. I don't have the original slide handy to date it, but it was in a batch from late 1976 to mid-1977.
2-10-2






Date: 01/02/21 15:36
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: Railbaron

Did it more times than I can count on work trains out of Oakridge; real easy for the Roadmaster to get rail where he needed it.



Date: 01/02/21 15:39
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: PHall

I think the only hazard if the chain broke would be if you were in the snap back zone when it broke.



Date: 01/02/21 16:20
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: GN599

We used to do it on BNSF up intil about 2008 or 2009. It was always on the outside. They (BNSF mow) would anchor it up to the existing rail and we would just drive out from underneath it. Now they use a Herzog rail unloading machine they call the "RUM" truck.



Date: 01/02/21 16:53
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: LocoPilot750

I've pulled rail like that a few times on a work train. I remember slowing down a little to make sure it ran up over a road crossing,  I remember the blue & white smoke as we drug it across, and on a few high ties here and there that caught most of the weight for a while.



Date: 01/02/21 17:01
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: perklocal

I shot CR 2914 dragging rail up the east slope on #4 Track at CP Benny in Tunnelhill,PA. on 4/20/80. They had a track supervisor keep a close eye as they drug the rails through the interlocking. It sounded almost like fingernails on a chalkboard as it rounded Bennington Curve.




Date: 01/02/21 17:06
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: Trainhand

Good accurate descriptions. I have done it too. Always inside the gauge. The strangest was when CSX was takung up the Evertte sub, the roadway dept. would measure 1500 feet with a wheel/ as one person was measuring, 2 more were knocking off rail anchors. AT the 1500 ft mark they would unbolt the joint, it was all jointed rail, I would hook on the 2 rails with a chain, and pull it out of the spikes to wgere it was being loaded on a rail train.



Date: 01/03/21 05:22
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: engineerinvirginia

I could be wrong but I think C&O invented the welded rail train....so normally that's how we do rail (I'm CSX on the C&O lines)....you start a piece coming out the rear of the train, and tie it off...and then move ahead....dragging would only be done if a piece of rail was set off in the wrong spot and needed to be moved...and usually that would only be a short distance....we try not to throw out rail willy nilly....



Date: 01/03/21 14:28
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: Beowawe

Got called for a work train on the San Jose branch, (ex WP), and pulled a number of pieces of CWR about two miles account rail was originally dumped in the wrong location.  If I remember was told to run about 8 mph.  Friction on the ties made a lot of smoke.  At crossings, there were two we crossed, signal maintainers kept the gates down after the engine cleared the crossing till the rail cleared.  This was about 1996.



Date: 01/03/21 15:28
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: 3rdswitch

Yep, been there done that on Santa Fe's Harbor District.
JB



Date: 01/06/21 09:12
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: santafe199

Count me in with the "been there ~ done that" gang. I remember one afternoon riding that rear car with the M.O.W. boys to help keep an eye on the rail draggin session. We were dragging 2 rails as I recall. Listening to the uneartly sounds being made was quite an experience. The bottom (web?) of the rails would grind down on loose ballast and the hi-pitched scratching/screeching sound was certainly attention-grabbing. I was thinking a film maker could use that noise for background sound effects for some horrow flick...

Lance/199



Date: 01/06/21 09:57
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: 567Chant

Sparks - I guess that explains the water cars.
...Lorenzo@ConejoCopier.com



Date: 01/06/21 10:11
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: ldstephey

Beowawe Wrote:
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>  At crossings, there were
> two we crossed, signal maintainers kept the gates
> down after the engine cleared the crossing till
> the rail cleared. 

I was wondering about that.  I would think the gates would go up before the rail cleared.
 
A real surprise for the autos, I would bet!
.



Date: 01/06/21 17:00
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: ABB

A slight correction, the bottom is the "base" and the "web" is the section of rail between the base and the ball .

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Date: 01/15/21 20:49
Re: Dragging rail Question
Author: BNSF6400

ldstephey Wrote:
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> Beowawe Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >  At crossings, there were
> > two we crossed, signal maintainers kept the
> gates
> > down after the engine cleared the crossing till
> > the rail cleared. 
>
> I was wondering about that.  I would think the
> gates would go up before the rail cleared.
>  
> A real surprise for the autos, I would bet!

This happened on the BNSF once.  I believe it was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest but I could be mistaken.  Several autos hit the rail causing lots of damage.  I don't know the details of how this ended up happening however.



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