Railroaders' Nostalgia > 282 Awards with a unusual ending

A lot of guys that got severed under 282 didn't leave the Railroad. They were offered different jobs in different departments.
We had three people that eventually came back to engine service. They were called back, I'm guessing, in 1970/71. The SP
simulator began operation about this time in Cerritos, CA. But these three were not offered the simulator; instead they showed
up in the RFE's office and  "Wrote The Book"! After passing they were given promoted enginemen seniority dates based on their 
original  order of employment. But their  actual Running Dates were the same for all three; the date they passed the "Book".
And their Firemans dates were the same as their running dates! So if you were a fireman and had been hired prior to their
"Book" date you had seniority over them on the fireman's seniority roster. So they got bumped by "junior men" the first
few years when things were slow. 
I hope I got all this correctly.

I'm going over to a Gal's house for "Fireworks"!

JJB

 

Seaboard started rehiring some of their firemen severed in the 282 PEB Award in 1965.  I understood they picked who they wanted back rather than doing it with reguard to past seniority.  A fair number of them went back to being firemen.  The SAL of that time still had 7-8 pairs of passenger trains and over 30 hostler / outside hostler helper jobs to man out of  the Hamlet NC hub.  Plus there were the allowed 10% freight and yard fireman veto jobs and a big fireman's extra board.  Some of the severed firemen had become shopmen, particularly electricians.  Some had advanced to shop foremen by the time I hired out.  Some became trainmen.  I think a couple of our yardmasters were severed firemen.

Southern Railway's Eastern Lines  firemen were not party to the 282 Award because of local handling.  Southern had a lot of furloughed fireman for part of the 60's because of lost passenger and hostler jobs and from trying to cut the through freight starts by making most freights into very long radio trains with midtrain power.

I thought the Award 282 required the carriers to offer firing rights back to the cut off firemen prior to hiring any new firemen.

Sam

Trainhand Wrote:
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> I thought the Award 282 required the carriers to
> offer firing rights back to the cut off firemen
> prior to hiring any new firemen.
>
> Sam

I worked with several men that were cut off fireman that hired out the next day as a brakemen, clerk or switchman. Some returned back as firemen in 1966. Some stayed in their craft. I only know of one person that RFE, Roland Roberts, said no way that Catman Schaefer could return as a fireman.
As far as returning as a fireman and being promoted to an engineer instantly did not happen on the SP.

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Trainhand Wrote:
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> I thought the Award 282 required the carriers to
> offer firing rights back to the cut off firemen
> prior to hiring any new firemen.

Evidently Hamlet didn't do it that way.  Hamlet rehired the severed firemen they wanted in the order they wanted.  That is what the severed and rehired firemen at Hamlet told me.  I knew one or two severed firemen that would have rehired if given the opportunity.  Way past me, hiring firemen at Hamlet was a local thing, rather than corporate from Richmond or Jacksonville.  Perhaps being completely severed, rather than being cut off made a difference.  Some severed firemen had enough seniority to get a severance payment.  Some severed firemen were also promoted engineers