Eastern Railroad Discussion > Ex-CNJ SD40s

I was wondering if any of the eight ex-CNJ SD40s are still in use? I know Conrail rebuilt several of them into SD40-2s and were used in helper service. Did any of them make it into NS/CSX? If not, does anyone know what happened to them? Thanks for your help.

I can't help you with the dispositions of these units, however, here's the 3061 until someone can.

Elizabeth, N.J. 9/74

Andy

C&O bought 20 SD40's in 1967 and 8 of them including the #3061 that Andy took, was on long termlease in 1968 to the CNJ which carried the numbers 3061 through 3069. this info from the book Blue Diesels and Black Diamonds. (Tom Biery)and I do believe these were rebuilt to the Dash 2 standards. I believe CSX has got them back from the CNJ probably during the Chessie days ao the Family line days. I hope this helps you some what.

Jose

OC-I can tell you where 3 of them are.They are now First Union Rail Lease units:
FURX 3039,ex CNJ 3061
FURX 3040,ex CNJ 3065
FURX 3041,ex CNJ 3068
CSX has them right now,and they are common on the ex B&O here in Ohio -kind of a "comming home" thing as these are ex B&O.I've tossed in a scan of the only CNJ SD-40 to get the Coast Guard treatment after Conrail had renumbered it.It's shown backing up to it's train after pushing the train ahead up Tallmadge hill on the ex EL between Akron and Kent,March of 1977.It is the ex CNJ 3067.Tried the "instant fix" feature in Photoshop just to see how it worked,not sure I like the result.Anyway,hope this helps a bit.RAD.And PS:nikonman(Andy),check your mail-thanks.

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Any of the ex-CNJ units that were rebuilt to Dash-2 specs as part of the program at Juniata during the early 1990s are still in service, as far as I know. I don't think any were wrecked (they were mostly in yard and transfer service for Conrail) and there have been no SD40-2 retirements.

One interesting note about those rebuilds is that they were all painted into straight can-opener livery, with the "Quality," even though "Conrail Quality" had been around for a couple of years by then. They probably were the last units painted into the original Conrail scheme (without the Q). Conrail people explained that the rebuilt units didn't necessarily meet the specs for "Conrail Quality." Yet they've outlasted a bunch of unrebuilt power that got the Quality treatment, but has since been retired -- including a single U23C that lasted just a month or two in its fresh CQ paint before being sent to the scrapper.

Just like us young wipersnapers say RAD (Radica), awsome shot.

Ok, I stand corrected, Conrail still had them when they went to CSX. I was not sure about that my self.

For the current CSXT and NS info:

CR 6996 is now NS 3445
Previously CR 6287, CNJ 3063, B&O 7484

CR 6981 is now CSXT 8879
Previously CR 6288, CNJ 3064, B&O 7485

CR 6999 is now CSXT 8886
Previously CR 6290, CNJ 3066, B&O 7487

-Alex

CORRECTED version of my note about the SD40-2E fleet's paint....

One interesting note about those rebuilds is that they were all painted into straight can-opener livery, without the "Quality," even though "Conrail Quality" had been around for a couple of years by then. They probably were the last units painted into the original Conrail scheme (without the Q). Conrail people explained that the rebuilt units didn't necessarily meet the specs for "Conrail Quality." Yet they've outlasted a bunch of unrebuilt power that got the Quality treatment, but has since been retired -- including a single U23C that lasted just a month or two in its fresh CQ paint before being sent to the scrapper.

BO 7482 to CNJ 3061 to CR 6285 to EMD 6425 to EMD 425 back to EMDX 6425 to FURX 3039

BO 7483 to CNJ 3062 to CR 6286 to HLCX 6067 (6067 was to be ex HLCX-5035 but was replaced in the program with CR-6286)

BO 7484 to CNJ 3063 to CR 6287 to CR 6996 to NS 3445

BO 7485 to CNJ 3064 to CR 6288 to CR 6981 to CSXT 8878

BO 7486 to CNJ 3065 to CR 6289 to EMD 6429 to EMD 429 back to EMD 6429 to FURX 3040

BO 7487 to CNJ 3066 to CR 6290 to CR 6999 to CSXT 8885

BO 7488 to CNJ 3067 to CR 6291 to EMD 6417 to UP 4770

BO 7489 to CNJ 3068 to CR 6292 to EMD 6410 to EMD 410 to EMD 6410 to FURX 3041

BO 7490 to CNJ 3069 wrk-f on EL (1975), to MILW for parts, re# MILW-40.

I should clarify that the note "to MILW-40" does not refer to an active locomotive, just a spray painted number on the hulk.

Mp 57 Right on the Money!!!
Cnj3069 Destroyed on the EL in Slatington PA 1975 Ended up to be
F.U.B.A.R.

Here`s the CSX 8885 at Bethlehem, Pa. 2-24-01 leading NS train 18G.
X B&O 7487 CNJ 3066 CR 6290 CR 6999. The trailing unit on this train was PRR SD45-2 #1705 X CR 6666:

<A HREF="http://members.trainorders.com/keysubdiv/20010224ns18g.jpg&quot;&gt;http://members.trainorders.com/keysubdiv/20010224ns18g.jpg&lt;/A&gt;

Tom

cnj1524 wrote:
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> Mp 57 Right on the Money!!!
> Cnj3069 Destroyed on the EL in Slatington PA 1975 Ended up to be
> F.U.B.A.R.


Wrecked at Delaware Water Gap, which is near East Stroudsburg. EL didn't go near Slatington. LV and CNJ did.

Wasn`t there an EL SDP45 that went for a swim in that mess? Later became the WLE 9920?

tOM

Yes, the 3637 was the 3rd unit. CNJ 3069 was the middle unit. CNJ 3068 was the lead unit and was the only unit to make it across the washout.

BTW, Bill,

I have CR 6286 becoming HLCX 5035. How can a unit substitute for itself? Do you have other data on a HLCX 5035 history? I do show 5035 as actually existing, so its not a (HLCX 5035) situation.

Thoughts?

It was the 3637 that went down the embankment that night and was rebuilt into a slug but unsure of the number

>>I have CR 6286 becoming HLCX 5035. How can a unit
>>substitute for itself? Do you have other data on
>>a HLCX 5035 history? I do show 5035 as actually existing,
>>so its not a (HLCX 5035) situation. Thoughts?

I just *knew* that was coming since this conflict has been floating around for years, and am so prepared ........ This actually stems from a report on HLCX 6067 which was to be rebuilt from HLCX 5035 and was not.

HLCX 5035 is ex CR 801/0801 exx CR 6242 nee PC 6242
HLCX 6067 is ex CR 6286 exx CNJ 3062 nee B&O 7483

What happened is that CR 6286 was substituted for CR 801 in the "6000-program" and CR 801 (x6242) thus became HLCX 5035. This has been verfied several times with frame checks. Last word on HLCX 5035 is that it is still in CR blue and sitting at Alstom in Montreal.

... almost afraid to ask, but ... what is the "A" in FUBAR for ?

If memory serves me correctly, the 3637 was rebuilt into an N&W slug. Maybe #9920? ChrisA. wrote:
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> It was the 3637 that went down the embankment that night and
> was rebuilt into a slug but unsure of the number