Eastern Railroad Discussion > New long pools on CSX

Am told that CSX recently established a pool of conductors and engineers that run between North Jersey intermodal terminals and DeWitt (Syracuse, NY) - about 285 miles.
There is another new pool between DeWitt and Collinwood, OH - about 300 miles.  I believe these apply only to selected intermodal trains.  If the trains involved do not work
art Selkirk, the new arrangement makes Selkirk more fluid because intermodal trains tend to congregate there during late 2nd trick and throughout 3rd trick.
Reminds me of when Conrail established Buffalo-Toledo, Toledo-Chicago and Cleveland-Elkhart pools to make Cleveland, Toledo and Elkhart more fluid.
When PSR was implimented by EHH circa 2017, many trains between Selkirk and Buffalo began changing crews at DeWitt.  I believe most manifest freights now have long
pool Selkirk-Buffalo crews again.
Andy

Thanks for the info.

I wonder if the long pools get scheduling priority?

ts1457 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the info.
>
> I wonder if the long pools get scheduling
> priority?

They are usually put on trains that already get priority.   

Typhoon Wrote:
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> They are usually put on trains that already get
> priority.   

Thanks - makes sense. 

I should have thought about it before I asked the question.

25 years ago it took 12 hours to get some trains from North Bergen NJ to Selkirk. It wasn't unusual for a lower priority train crew to die on the law at Catskill Alsen area.

Amazing what mostly double track will do now.

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So three crew districts for the hottest IM trains Chicago-Collinwood=DeWitt-NJ? Assume similar for Chicago-Worcester. Should help cost competitiveness on these lanes with their shorter-than-western length of haul.

Wondering if this can be achieved with a single crew on the Chicago end Collinwood with the existing congestion between roughly Pine Junction and (presumably) Bedford Park (though I wouldn't expect much different to 59th Street). I assume these trains wouldn't work North Baltimore either or face much delay Deshler-NB-Fostoria.

Also curious about the pros and cons for the train crews. I assume these "more tightly scheduled" trains and priority running are a pro, but I also assume the long pools hold some cons.

pbouzide Wrote:
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> So three crew districts for the hottest IM trains
> Chicago-Collinwood=DeWitt-NJ? Assume similar for
> Chicago-Worcester. Should help cost
> competitiveness on these lanes with their
> shorter-than-western length of haul.
>
> Wondering if this can be achieved with a single
> crew on the Chicago end Collinwood with the
> existing congestion between roughly Pine Junction
> and (presumably) Bedford Park (though I wouldn't
> expect much different to 59th Street). I assume
> these trains wouldn't work North Baltimore either
> or face much delay Deshler-NB-Fostoria.
>
> Also curious about the pros and cons for the train
> crews. I assume these "more tightly scheduled"
> trains and priority running are a pro, but I also
> assume the long pools hold some cons.


Willard to Collinwood isn’t much farther.
Like you mentioned getting out of Chicago. Is what could make or break you.

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Here on the CSX CE&D sub I025 & I026 run Evansville, IN to Chicago. About a 300 mile run. Normally Danville, IL would have been the crew change point. I128 & I129 did the Chicago thing but later went back to changing crews at Danville, IL. The pay is very good.

I thought at one time back in the 90s(pre Conrail) there was a Chicago to Willard pool for hot trains(like the R136 R137 et al) that didnt change at Garrett, IN?
Does that pool even exist anymore?
MILW86A 

MILW86A Wrote:
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> I thought at one time back in the 90s(pre Conrail)
> there was a Chicago to Willard pool for hot
> trains(like the R136 R137 et al) that didnt change
> at Garrett, IN?
> Does that pool even exist anymore?
> MILW86A 


Not a 100% sure on this
Before this Collinwood to Chicago pool started
The UPS trains were Willard to Chicago

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farmer Wrote:

> Not a 100% sure on this
> Before this Collinwood to Chicago pool started
> The UPS trains were Willard to Chicago
>
> Posted from iPhone

Thanks farmer. I thought if anyone woould know you would be the one. 
MILW86A