Eastern Railroad Discussion > some help with new cn/ic train symbols please!

MAYBE SOME ONE CAN HELP ME WITH THIS, RECENTLY ALL OF THE ILLINOIS CENTRAL TRAIN SYMBOLS IN OUR AREA HAVE SWITCHED OVER TO CANADIAN NATIONAL NUMERIC SYMBOLS, I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE KNOWS A WEB PAGE THAT HAS ALL THE IC TO CN CONVERSIONS OR IF NO WEB PAGE EXIST COULD YOU TELL ME THE CONVERSIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING CN/IC TRAINS. THANKS IN ADVANCE, MARK





TRAINS IN QUESTION:

1. IC TRAIN MEES (MEMPHIS -EAST ST LOUIS MAINFEST) IS IT NOW CN/IC TRAIN M349-71
2.IC TRAIN URLWR (UNIT COAL REND LAKE-WOODRIVER ILL)IS IT NOW CN/IC TRAIN U715-71 WHAT IS ITS COUNTERPARTS SYMBOL?
3.IC TRAIN IO-5 (CENTRALIA-VENICE ILL TOFC)IS IT NOW CN/IC TRAIN Q184-61 WHAT DO THE 71 AND 61 MEAN AT THE END OF THE TRAIN SYMBOL??
4.IC TRAIN I0-8 (MEMPHIS TN-VENICE ILL TOFC)I AM UNSURE OF THIS SYMBOL CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE IT FOR ME.


THESE TRAINS AND THERE COUNTERPARTS ARE THE ONLY CN/IC TRAINS WE HAVE LEFT IN THE ST LOUIS AREA OTHER THAN WESTERN COAL TRAINS FROM THE UP FOR CHILES OR PADUCAH KENTUCKY,ANY HELP WITH THESE TRAIN SYMBOLS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS AGAIN.

Here's a document on the CN website that describes the new train designation :

http://www.cn.ca/cnwebsite/cnwebsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileTrainDesignation/$File/TrainDesignation.PDF

stlrailfan wrote:

> TRAINS IN QUESTION:
>
> 1. IC TRAIN MEES (MEMPHIS -EAST ST LOUIS MAINFEST) IS IT NOW
> CN/IC TRAIN M349-71

R: Yep, that is former MEES

> 2.IC TRAIN URLWR (UNIT COAL REND LAKE-WOODRIVER ILL)IS IT NOW
> CN/IC TRAIN U715-71 WHAT IS ITS COUNTERPARTS SYMBOL?

R: That'd be U716

> 3.IC TRAIN IO-5 (CENTRALIA-VENICE ILL TOFC)IS IT NOW CN/IC
> TRAIN Q184-61 WHAT DO THE 71 AND 61 MEAN AT THE END OF THE
> TRAIN SYMBOL??

R: The fourth digit identify the region; 6 = Midwest division (that includes GTW and DWP); 7 = Gulf division. Regions #1-5 are Canadian regions. The fifth digit always seems to be 1; I don't know what it means.

> 4.IC TRAIN I0-8 (MEMPHIS TN-VENICE ILL TOFC)I AM UNSURE OF
> THIS SYMBOL CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE IT FOR ME.
> THESE TRAINS AND THERE COUNTERPARTS ARE THE ONLY CN/IC TRAINS
> WE HAVE LEFT IN THE ST LOUIS AREA OTHER THAN WESTERN COAL
> TRAINS FROM THE UP FOR CHILES OR PADUCAH KENTUCKY,ANY HELP WITH
> THESE TRAIN SYMBOLS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS AGAIN.

R: That is Q187-71 (or simply '187').

Anyway, all the info you want are in the PDF document.

Have a nice day

JF

JF was right on about the fourth number in the CN symbols:
1-Atlantic region
2-St Lawrence Region
3-Great Lakes Region
4-Prairie region
5-Mountain region
6-Midwest division(US lines north of Centralia-except DW&P)
7-Gulf division(US lines south of Centralia)

The fifth number in the train symbol is the train section code:
0-advance section
1-regular section
2-second section
3-third section
ect ect

Mark

JF AND CN MARK , THANKS ALOT FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE CN/IC TRAIN SYMBOLS, I WAS STARTING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT JUST BY WHAT I HEARD ON THE SCANNER BUT I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE 71 AND 61 MEANT AT THE END OF THE SYMBOL THANKS FOR THE HELP. THE SYMBOLS WILL COME IN HANDY AROUND ST LOUIS AND WHEN I MAKE MY REGULAR TRIPS OVER TO CENTRALIA AND EFFINGHAM TO SHOOT THE MAINLINE OF MID AMERICA.

THANKS, MARK