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Eastern Railroad Discussion > Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing caseDate: 09/16/14 23:18 Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing case Author: bradleymckay http://news.mpbn.net/post/maine-oil-train-protester-convicted
As I've said before on TO "there is a right way to protest and a stupid way"... Allen Date: 09/17/14 04:16 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: steamfan I can only imagine the precedent that would have been set if the case was ruled the other direction...
John R -- CP Spring Carlisle, PA Date: 09/17/14 10:16 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: KSmitty $100 fine! Total crap. I'm sure the jury was like: "time well spent." and they had 2 juries, 1 for each defendant. Total waste of effort, to let them push it to trial and fine them $100. And I'm sure for that price they will be right back out on the tracks.
Date: 09/17/14 10:53 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: Lackawanna484 KSmitty Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > $100 fine! Total crap. I'm sure the jury was like: > "time well spent." and they had 2 juries, 1 for > each defendant. Total waste of effort, to let them > push it to trial and fine them $100. And I'm sure > for that price they will be right back out on the > tracks. +1 There's a well documented jury feature which holds that "socially responsible" protests will receive much less blame etc than things which the jury considers reprehensible. It's something a prosecutor always has to consider. Protesting oil and fossil fuels, stopping an oil train, and opposing "big oil" is socially responsible for many folks. Stopping a train of military equipment in the same location, on its way to Afghanistan would be irresponsible, supporting the enemy etc. The same jury would come to a much more stringent conclusion. Date: 09/17/14 13:22 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: BaltimoreOhio Lackawanna484 Wrote:
> > There's a well documented jury feature which holds > that "socially responsible" protests will receive > much less blame etc than things which the jury > considers reprehensible. It's something a > prosecutor always has to consider. > > Protesting oil and fossil fuels, stopping an oil > train, and opposing "big oil" is socially > responsible for many folks. Stopping a train of > military equipment in the same location, on its > way to Afghanistan would be irresponsible, > supporting the enemy etc. The same jury would come > to a much more stringent conclusion. I concur 100%. Factually, you're either trespassing or your aren't. But if you are found guilty, the sentencing is influenced by a wide variety of factors. And, rightly or wrongly, a "protest" would not come off as bad as if a couple of college kids had gotten drunk on the tracks. And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that this person will just automatically go do it again, because one of the factors that weighs heavily at sentencing is a the defendant's prior record. Date: 09/17/14 17:14 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: MEKoch $100 for criminal trespass is VERY cheap. Should have been at least $500.
Date: 09/17/14 18:10 Re: Maine oil train protester convicted in trespassing Author: Lackawanna484 MEKoch Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > $100 for criminal trespass is VERY cheap. Should > have been at least $500. Environmentalist and coal investor Tom Steyer and his buddies could fund a thousand people on the tracks with money in his seat cushions. |