Eastern Railroad Discussion > NS 13R on the ground in Harrisburg

Dumped 7 or so cars on the connector from CP-PAXTON to the Lurgan line.

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Can you say STRINGLINE, boys and girls? I knew you could.

Sure looks like that to me?
JB

toledopatch Wrote:
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> Can you say STRINGLINE, boys and girls? I knew you
> could.

That's easy. Now can you say what caused it?

Not sure of the train length, but there have been some long consists of late (13R).

Whether that's a factor remains to be seen...

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John R -- CP Spring
Carlisle, PA

Not the first time this has happened in this location. Crews are on site starting the clean-up.

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Does NS have an alternate way to get to / from the Lurgan Line?  My recollection is there is / was a lead from the south end of Enola which connects to the Lurgan line

steamfan Wrote:
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> Not sure of the train length, but there have been
> some long consists of late (13R).
>
> Whether that's a factor remains to be seen...
>
> Posted from Android

Per scanner feed, 13R left Enola with a 9300' train; crew reported that they believed they had 47 cars leaving Harrisburg for Hagerstown. If so, that would put the 48th car at the head of the derailed cars. (though not necessarily the first car to derail)

Obviously this costs NS money.  When events like this happen are those who are found to be responsible reprimanded, suspended, fired?  Or are events like these considered cost of doing business, learn from mistakes, and try not to repeat in the future?

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> Does NS have an alternate way to get to / from the
> Lurgan Line?  My recollection is there is / was a
> lead from the south end of Enola which connects to
> the Lurgan line

Maybe via a reverse move over the Camp Hill connection - - not exactly an easy diversion...

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John R -- CP Spring
Carlisle, PA

VFPNSFAN Wrote:
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> Obviously this costs NS money.  When events like
> this happen are those who are found to be
> responsible reprimanded, suspended, fired?
= train crew.

 Or
> are events like these considered cost of doing
> business, learn from mistakes, and try not to
> repeat in the future?
= mgmt.
DISCLAIMER: This is my sarcastic response, but many would see it this way. It has been known to happen this way in the past.

They can pull on 1 track from CP-HARRISBURG to CP-CAPITAL then change direction over the Reading Bridge.  Would require power on both ends, and would only work providing the derailment isn't fouling the Lurgan Line at CP-FRONT ST.  Doubt they would do this, I suspect everything will be cleaned up and back in service by tomorrow morning.

I was down there this time last week....went to find the spot in Lemoyne near the treatment plant that overlooks the West end of the Reading Bridge only to find the road now gated off....Dave W.

Posted from Android

Thanks for the info

9300 feet is long for a mixed freight.  Is this another casualty of the monster trains they have started to run?

I am sure the train was violating trailing tonnage for that particular curve. 2400 tons in the timetable for Paxton to Front St on Main one

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sscannella Wrote:
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> Dumped 7 or so cars on the connector from CP-PAXTON to the Lurgan line.

Apparently the rear end of the train was long enough to block both the east and west bound Pennsylvanians, west of Harrisburg station.

Brian

P Wrote:
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> 9300 feet is long for a mixed freight.  Is this
> another casualty of the monster trains they have
> started to run?

Thats just say that 13R has more responsibility now since NS abolished 37Q out of Enola.......

There was an effort a few years ago when NS tried to install a turning WYE in Lemoyne that could have made getting to the Lurgan branch easier but the local Government nixed it.

Jim
Hatboro, PA

ns1000 Wrote:
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> P Wrote:
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> > 9300 feet is long for a mixed freight.  Is
> this
> > another casualty of the monster trains they
> have
> > started to run?
>
> Thats just say that 13R has more responsibility
> now since NS abolished 37Q out of Enola......

I have heard several M3R trains lately,  that is an extra 13R

hollywood
NS B Line MP 74