Eastern Railroad Discussion > Wet Weather Wednesday

continuing on my weekly rain theme ... here's 3 for WWW ... CA-11 nb on the Penns Grove Secondary approaching the Paulsboro yard limit at BLS Gibb about a mile ahead ... it was pouring as you can see the in the water ...

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#1 is a terrific shot.  Were they taken from your boat?

negative Joe ... taken from Rt 44 between Gibbstown and Bridgeport 

Out_Of_Service Wrote:
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> negative Joe ... taken from Rt 44 between
> Gibbstown and Bridgeport 


Nice Shots  Thanks for shareing

I hope you were in or very close to your vehicle. Nice OOS.
John

Q135 originating in Portsmouth sould be made up of well cars with 40 foot wells for marine cons. But for many reasons intermodal trains are a mixture of car types not always best suited for the intermodal units they carry. Over the last decade or more the well car fleet has been narrowed to 40ft wells for marine cons and 53ft wells for domestic cons. Cars with 45ft or 48ft con/van capacity still run around but get fewer in number. There are only eight well and spine car sizes that will survive into the future. By far the predominat types are the 40ft five pack, and single and articulated three packs for 53 ft. The fleet of three and five pack spine cars for trailers and cons is holding its own, I've seem many with new hitches. Using  a 2013 ORER I did an Excel spreadsheet of the fleet at the time. I also got 204ft for three well 53ft domestic cars but 267ft for marine five pack wells including the bulkhead cars which just do not seem to wear out. I will share my spreadsheet with anyone interested if you PM me. But do it fast as my subcription to TO is expiring soon and not sure if I will re-new. I just got a Jul 2015 ORER but do not plan to do a similar study as it is a lot of work. So to answer the Q, if the q135 was all marine five pack wells the shortest it could have been was 11481ft.

tp117 Wrote:
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> Q135 originating in Portsmouth sould be made up
> of well cars with 40 foot wells for marine cons.
> But for many reasons intermodal trains are a
> mixture of car types not always best suited for
> the intermodal units they carry. Over the last
> decade or more the well car fleet has been
> narrowed to 40ft wells for marine cons and 53ft
> wells for domestic cons. Cars with 45ft or 48ft
> con/van capacity still run around but get fewer in
> number. There are only eight well and spine car
> sizes that will survive into the future. By far
> the predominat types are the 40ft five pack, and
> single and articulated three packs for 53 ft. The
> fleet of three and five pack spine cars for
> trailers and cons is holding its own, I've seem
> many with new hitches. Using  a 2013 ORER I did
> an Excel spreadsheet of the fleet at the time. I
> also got 204ft for three well 53ft domestic cars
> but 267ft for marine five pack wells including the
> bulkhead cars which just do not seem to wear out.
> I will share my spreadsheet with anyone interested
> if you PM me. But do it fast as my subcription to
> TO is expiring soon and not sure if I will re-new.
> I just got a Jul 2015 ORER but do not plan to do a
> similar study as it is a lot of work. So to answer
> the Q, if the q135 was all marine five pack wells
> the shortest it could have been was 11481ft.

this statement has to get the ole HUH ??? ...trying to figure the relevence of your post there TP to my thread 

John ... i was shooting out the passenger window 

I believe tp117 thought he was commenting on cinder's post, the post just prior your's.  Nice pics, interesting scene.