Eastern Railroad Discussion > NS derailment in Pittsburgh

Stack train detailed down onto the T trackage by Station Square.

https://www.wtae.com/article/freight-train-derails-near-station-square/22646555

Ernie

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I'm hearing its 21Q...

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Picture

https://www.wthr.com/article/train-derails-pittsburgh

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darkcloud Wrote:
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> An example of why today's freight RR's are often
> so resistant to allowing transit to be built in or
> near their ROW.
The same can be said about a highway.  What if that derailment occurred over a major highway?  There are many, many rail lines that pass over busy roads of all kinds.  It can happen anytime, anywhere.  We have been very fortunate considering all the busy railroads and highways in our country, especially with the way many people operate their vehicles, in and out of lanes and at much higher speeds anywhere from 75 MPH to a few going 100 MPH.
John in White Marsh, Maryland

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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Would have been something to be standing on the platform waiting for your trolley when ... Hello!!!  Are those Amazon packages to be delivered?

Yes, seeing containers and well cars careening downhill at you seems like a very scary prospect.

Don't know if there's even any place to run to. Some stations are fenced in.

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ns1000 Wrote:
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> I'm hearing its 21Q...
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21Q Sitting at Station Square. 4000 Involved in Derailment, Unit is not damage and still on rails. See WPXI, KDKA or WTAE for details.

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Some Pics
https://www.wpxi.com/news/national/photos/photos-train-derails-near-station-square/806739182

It has 4000 as one of the units hop everyone is ok

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Containers of Listerine. Will freshen things up. 

Does NS have another way through Pittsburgh ?

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biff Wrote:
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> Does NS have another way through Pittsburgh ?

Yes and no. This is on the Mon Line which is used by the stack trains to get around downtown and its height restrictions. Any non high car trains can still run the mainline through downtown. Additionally the Conemaugh Line is not affected by this, but also cannot handle high cars. The Mon Line can also be accessed east of town via the Port Perry branch, so coal trains coming north on the Mon can use that as an outlet, but would require a run around move once back on to the main at Wing.

Scooter

darkcloud Wrote:
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> An example of why today's freight RR's are often so resistent
> to allowing transit to be built in or near their ROW.

The only time a transit line would be a problem is if the transit line derailed blocking the freight line.
Did the presence of the transit line foul the NS track or cause the incident? If not, what is the problem?

The transit line will have some expensive repairs to do.

For those interested in rare rail transit operations, it sounds like the Port Authority is going to detour around the derailment using the Brown Line via Warrington. This line is not normally operated and is used only when maintenance on the transit tunnel is going on or when there is a problem like this one. The line runs through some dense city neighborhoods on old fashioned street running.

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The train may have derailed but the locks that hold those containers together are some bad son of guns !!!

Per NS Tier/D&H FAcebook page, 20T and 26T are detouring via Buffalo and Southern Tier.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/18 17:00 by JPB.

For westbound coal and coke trains, a run around move will be required or a set of helpers to pull the train backwards across the Port Perry Branch. The C07 & C35 are gonna require a special move also. The eastbound coal trains are gonna have to run mainline and pick up helpers at Wing.

ernie


Skuat Wrote:
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> biff Wrote:
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> > Does NS have another way through Pittsburgh ?
>
> Yes and no. This is on the Mon Line which is used
> by the stack trains to get around downtown and its
> height restrictions. Any non high car trains can
> still run the mainline through downtown.
> Additionally the Conemaugh Line is not affected by
> this, but also cannot handle high cars. The Mon
> Line can also be accessed east of town via the
> Port Perry branch, so coal trains coming north on
> the Mon can use that as an outlet, but would
> require a run around move once back on to the main
> at Wing.
>
> Scooter

Good info, thank you.

That excellent discussion we had two weeks ago about the Conemaugh Line, double stacks, etc fits right into this situation.

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I imagine that would be a sight to see from any security cameras.