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Date: 05/20/20 15:43
NS oil trains question
Author: dschlegel

I heard from two different sources that NS lost a contract to haul crude to New Jersey and that CSX was taking over.

I had heard it was effective this past Saturday, as well as last week sometime.

I just saw an eastbound oil train, I assume 66Z headed through Lyons, PA on the Reading line (1267 placards and PPRX reporting marks on the tank cars). The leaders were NS 1011 and 1012, sort of neat to see consecutive numbered locomotives!!

I guess the question is, did NS lose the crude contract and if so when is it effective?

Thanks,
Dan

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Date: 05/20/20 16:04
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: engineerinvirginia

Dunno, but if csx is getting it, it probably wont be on my line.....



Date: 05/20/20 16:21
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: conductor924

I don't remember symbols for it on csx but heard chicago line to river sub into nj but never know.



Date: 05/20/20 16:35
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: Lackawanna484

The train might have originated before the switch over date.

Or, the original info may be incorrect.

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Date: 05/20/20 17:15
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: green

yes thats what guys are hearing at csx, contract goes to philips petrolium, where ever that is



Date: 05/20/20 17:26
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: OHRY

It's no joke, but not sure when the changeover date is. This will mean no more Linden trains on the Reading Line.

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Date: 05/20/20 18:17
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: Typhoon

The trains should start running on CSX this week.



Date: 05/20/20 18:38
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: PRR_4859

Will CSXT be able to offer a shorter transit time with no mountain range to cross?



Date: 05/20/20 19:03
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: Lackawanna484

It's a big refinery, capacity of 285,000 barrels daily. Set up for rail access, and has its own wharf for imported oil. If it received crude only via rail, which it doesn't currently, that would be about 3.5 unit trains daily. I don't know if they could actually handle that much by rail in their own cribs.

https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/032320-refinery-news-phillips-66-cuts-rates-at-bayway-refinery-as-gasoline-cracks-fall-source



Date: 05/21/20 02:39
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: NYSW252

  CSX now has the contract.  A few NS 66Z oil trains were still en route. The CSX oil trains will operate via Selkirk and the River Subdivision to Port Newark, NJ. From there, Conrail will  move the trains to Linden, NJ via Carteret.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/20 02:41 by NYSW252.



Date: 05/21/20 05:42
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: Lackawanna484

The Garden State secondary former Chemical Coast also serves the Motiva refinery a few miles south.

CSX and NS have each had the contract there, too.

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Date: 05/21/20 06:04
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: dschlegel

Thanks everyone for the replies!
Dan

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Date: 05/21/20 11:11
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: kscessnadriver

Is this the same oil train that NS just switched the route it was using about 6 weeks ago?



Date: 05/21/20 16:17
Re: NS oil trains question
Author: toledopatch

kscessnadriver Wrote:
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> Is this the same oil train that NS just switched
> the route it was using about 6 weeks ago?

One of them. NS still has the oil move to Reybold, Del., if not other destinations, and ethanol traffic too.



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