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Date: 03/07/21 21:28
CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: SCAXEngr

What trains symbols (including Amtrak) operate through Folkston GA?  Are there approximate times as well?  Will be visiting Folkston during Easter week.  Any information appreciated.

SCAXEngr  



Date: 03/08/21 07:25
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: RFandPFan

If it helps, go to Georgia Rail Videos - YouTube channel.  I've posted a lot of videos from Folkston with times and symbols.



Date: 03/08/21 08:24
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: florida581

The following are all the scheduled CSX and Amtrak trains through Folkston.  Days of operation are from origin terminal.

•CSX

Q025 Bedford Park, IL - Jacksonville Moncrief, FL daily
Q026 Jacksonville Duval, FL - Bedford Park, IL daily
Q031 North Bergen, NJ - Jacksonville Duval, FL daily
Q032 Jacksonville Duval, FL - North Bergen, NJ daily 
Q037 Charlotte, NC - Jacksonville Moncrief, FL Mo-Sa
Q038 Jacksonville Moncrief, FL - Charlotte, NC daily
Q039 Charlotte, NC - Jacksonville Moncrief, FL Su
Q208 Baldwin, FL - Louisville, KY daily
Q209 Louisville, KY - Baldwin, FL daily
Q220 Sanford, FL - Montgomery, AL daily
Q441 Waycross, GA - Tampa, FL daily
Q442 Tampa, FL - Waycross, GA daily 
Q452 Miami, FL - Waycross ,GA daily
Q453 Waycross, GA - Miami, FL daily
Q455 Waycross, GA - Sanford, FL daily
Q603 Waycross, GA - Winston, FL daily
Q604 Winston, FL - Waycross, GA daily
A764 Waycross, GA - Jacksonville Moncrief, FL turn daily 

An average of 3-4 unit trains (coal, phosphate, ethanol, grain) run through Folkston on a typical day.  They run as needed and can show up at anytime day or night.

•Amtrak

P052 Auto Train Sanford, FL - Lorton, VA daily
P053 Auto Train Lorton, VA - Sanford, FL daily
P091 Sliver Star New York City, NY - Miami, FL Sa-Mo
P092 Sliver Star Miami, FL - New York City, NY Th-Sa
P097 Silver Meteor New York City, NY - Miami, FL Tu-Fr
P098 Silver Meteor Miami, FL - New York City, NY Su-We

•Folkston schedules (updated 3/8/21)

A764 southbound turn - 00:05
Q209 - 01:50
Q453 - 01:55
Q442 - 03:10
P053 - 04:45
Q208 - 05:15
Q031 - 05:35
Q604 - 05:40
P091 (Sa-Mo) - 06:15
A764 northbound turn - 06:40
P097 (Tu-Fr) - 08:35
Q037 (Mo-Sa) - 11:00
Q039 (Su) - 11:00
Q032 - 12:45
Q455 - 12:45
Q220 - 12:55
Q025 - 13:35
Q026 - 14:45
P098 (Su-We) - 17:40
Q441 - 16:35
Q452 - 19:10
P052 - 19:15
Q603 - 21:10
Q038 - 22:05
P092 (Th-Sa) - 23:40

The Nahunta Sub runs from Savannah to Jacksonville.  The Jesup Sub runs from Jesup, GA to Folkston via Waycross.  

North of Folkston, the Nahunta Sub sees the following trains:
Q031, Q032, Q037/39, Q038, P052, P053, P091, P092, P097, P098, sporadic coal trains and military movements

The Jesup Sub sees the following trains:
Q025, Q026, Q208, Q209, Q220, Q441, Q442, Q452, Q453, Q455, Q603, Q604, A764, ~3-4 unit trains

Altogether, there are about 25 train movements per 24-hours through Folkston on average.

Andrew



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/21 08:26 by florida581.



Date: 03/09/21 19:37
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: SCAXEngr

Thanks for the information. Will Railwatch be held on Easter weekend?

Posted from iPhone



Date: 03/09/21 23:57
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: florida581

SCAXEngr Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for the information. Will Railwatch be held
> on Easter weekend?
>

Railwatch is the weekend of April 10th.

Andrew



Date: 03/10/21 06:30
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: SouthernPacific

Hi Andrew,

Awesome info as always!

An average of 25 movements per day is much lower than the 60 or so from the Folkson Funnel of days gone by.

Did the the reduction in volume occur because of the following reasons:
  • Implementation of PSR with longer heavier trains (seems like biggest reason)
  • Fewer coals trains with powerplant conversion to natural gas or shutdown (permanent loss)
  • Economic downtown from pandemic (should correct itself post-pandemic)
  • Amtrak non-daly frequences on long distance trains (may correct itself in future)

Thank you in advance.

SP



Date: 03/10/21 07:32
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: ctillnc

I think the answers are yes, yes, yes, and yes. Also, reductions in OJ production killed the juice trains. And RBBB closed. 



Date: 03/10/21 07:34
Re: CSX Symbols and approximate times for trains at Folkston GA
Author: florida581

SouthernPacific Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Awesome info as always!
>
> An average of 25 movements per day is much lower
> than the 60 or so from the Folkson Funnel of days
> gone by.
>
> Did the the reduction in volume occur because of
> the following reasons:
>
>
  • Implementation of PSR with longer heavier
    > trains (seems like biggest reason)
Yes.  Unit rock trains, that used to run on their own separate trains, have been combined with the manifest trains though Folkston.  Same goes with the autorack trains.  They're now combined with intermodal trains.  The Tropicana trains are now on manifest trains as well.
  • Fewer coals trains with powerplant conversion
    > to natural gas or shutdown (permanent loss)
Yes.  Plants in Bostwick (Palatka) and Stanton (Orlando) are the only ones that still get regular deliveries of unit coal trains.  Big Bend (Tampa) gets them sporadically.  Other plants in Jacksonville, Crystal River, Gainesville, Lakeland, and Indiantown have either closed or will be / already have been converted to natural gas.  I believe the paper mills in Fernandina Beach and the cement plants  in Miami receive very sporadic coal trains. 
  • Economic downtown from pandemic (should correct
    > itself post-pandemic
That's a safe assumption.

Another big hit on traffic was the sale of the Tallahassee Sub to the Florida, Gulf & Atlantic.  All the Waycross - New Orleans trains are now routed via Manchester, GA and the Fitzgerald Sub.

Andrew



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