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Date: 06/04/23 08:27
NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: pt199

 Federal investigators are eyeing a defect detector failure that may led to a May 10 derailment on North Southern’s Youngstown Line in New Castle, Pennsylvania.

A preliminary report by the National Transportation Safety Board has determined that a detector found a critical alert several miles before the train reached New Castle, but that alert was not received by the crew aboard the train or the NS network operations center in Atlanta.

Instead, the train continued to travel  between 15 to 34 miles before derailing.Had the alarm been received the crew would have been required to stop their train immediately.The NTSB said the defect occurred on the 164th car of train 14M, which was en route from Conway Yard near Pittsburgh to Buffalo, New York.

The report said signal maintainers working on the track two days before the derailment removed and reinstalled components of the defect detector but did so incorrectly.That led the detector to transmit inaccurate data to the Atlanta Center regarding the defect.

The component parts in question has since been reinstalled and tested to determine they are working properly.Nine cars of the 14M derailed in the late night incident, cars 165 through 172. The train was traveling 28 miles per hour at the time of the derailment.Investigators recovered a burned-off bearing from the wreckage.No one was injured in the derailment and just one car in the train was carrying a hazardous substance. From the akronrrblog



Date: 06/04/23 11:33
Re: NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: Tominde

NS does not need that as a follow up to East Palestine.  Copies of report forwarded to all lawyers within 100 miles.



Date: 06/05/23 10:46
Re: NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: bigmc83

Cars 165-172??  I assume the conductor would have to walk the train if they had stopped due to the detector alert.  At ~50' a car, that's 8600ft conservatively.  That's a hell of a train to run and troubleshoot out on the mainline.

-Sean

pt199 Wrote:
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>  Federal investigators are eyeing a defect
> detector failure that may led to a May 10
> derailment on North Southern’s Youngstown Line
> in New Castle, Pennsylvania.
>
> A preliminary report by the National
> Transportation Safety Board has determined that a
> detector found a critical alert several miles
> before the train reached New Castle, but that
> alert was not received by the crew aboard the
> train or the NS network operations center in
> Atlanta.
>
> Instead, the train continued to travel  between
> 15 to 34 miles before derailing.Had the alarm been
> received the crew would have been required to stop
> their train immediately.The NTSB said the defect
> occurred on the 164th car of train 14M, which was
> en route from Conway Yard near Pittsburgh to
> Buffalo, New York.
>
> The report said signal maintainers working on the
> track two days before the derailment removed and
> reinstalled components of the defect detector but
> did so incorrectly.That led the detector to
> transmit inaccurate data to the Atlanta Center
> regarding the defect.
>
> The component parts in question has since been
> reinstalled and tested to determine they are
> working properly.Nine cars of the 14M derailed in
> the late night incident, cars 165 through 172. The
> train was traveling 28 miles per hour at the time
> of the derailment.Investigators recovered a
> burned-off bearing from the wreckage.No one was
> injured in the derailment and just one car in the
> train was carrying a hazardous substance. From the
> akronrrblog



Date: 06/05/23 11:46
Re: NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: KY_Railfan

Tominde Wrote:
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> NS does not need that as a follow up to East
> Palestine.  Copies of report forwarded to all
> lawyers within 100 miles.
I prefer to call those lawyers what that are i.e. buzzards! They are always out there circling, waiting for something (someone) to die. Then they swoop down to feed off the carcasses. They trample one another in a race to the courthouse to file their lawsuits, even while the fires are still burning.



Date: 06/05/23 14:21
Re: NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: Lackawanna484

Are these personal injury buzzards a different species than the saintly lawyer folk who sue on behalf of FELA and other workplace injuries?

Thanks!

Posted from Android



Date: 06/07/23 07:58
Re: NTSB Eyes Defective Detector in May NS Derailment in PA
Author: JOHNY5ALIVE

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> Are these personal injury buzzards a different
> species than the saintly lawyer folk who sue on
> behalf of FELA and other workplace injuries?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Posted from Android

Yes in most cases.

Posted from iPhone



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