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Date: 07/09/24 11:40
Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: bandob

TO people have been really helpful.  One more, a bridge seen from the Hell Gate bridge.

There's a bridge that can be seen behind the smokestacks in the first photo. Second might show it a bit more.

B&O Bill



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/09/24 11:43 by bandob.






Date: 07/09/24 11:45
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: srfreer

Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge(?)




Date: 07/09/24 12:10
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: bandob

Looks like it to me! Thanks, Another one i've never heard of.

B&O Bill



Date: 07/09/24 12:14
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: wcamp1472

Also known by the locals, as the
59th St Bridge ….. where it lands
on Manhattan….

Your photos originate in Queens
Borough, NYC

W.

Posted from iPhone



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Date: 07/09/24 12:20
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: timz

The rightish building in the first pic is here

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7A32L8PmDb4JfGae9

The slab building right of center in pic 2 is at

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8miWxPVxwES9Z2DEA

So if pic 2 came after pic 1, you were heading
out of NY.



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Date: 07/09/24 12:27
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: pdt

You didnt recognize The Empire State Building and the Chrystler Building?  They  are icons worldwide



Date: 07/09/24 12:40
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: biff

Not everyone has been to NY City, and have no desire to go there.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 07/09/24 22:11
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: pdt

biff Wrote:
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> Not everyone has been to NY City, and have no
> desire to go there.
>
> Posted from iPhone

You've never opened a book or magazine?



Date: 07/10/24 04:06
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: bandob

Biff, I did recognize them and never asked about them. I’m not sure the point of your post.

B&O Bill

Posted from iPhone



Date: 07/10/24 06:25
Re: "Where is this? in New York
Author: biff

My reply was aimed more at PDT. To me it was like he assumed everyone was familiar with NYC, which is not true.

Posted from iPhone



Date: 07/10/24 08:18
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: DavidP

wcamp1472 Wrote:
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> Also known by the locals, as the
> 59th St Bridge …..

Feelin' Groovy?

Dave



Date: 07/10/24 08:25
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: dschlegel

DavidP Wrote:
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> wcamp1472 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Also known by the locals, as the
> > 59th St Bridge …..
>
> Feelin' Groovy?
>
> Dave

You beat me to it!!! Slow down, you move too fast!

Dan

Posted from iPhone



Date: 07/10/24 10:27
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: jgilmore

What, no love for the Snoopy building, lol?

JG



Date: 07/10/24 12:05
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: grether

The Queensboro / 59th Street Bridge currently does not have any rail service but has a long history of it.  It hosted the IRT Second Ave Elevated and the last streetcar line in New York City, the Queensboro Bridge Railway, which connected with the Welfare Island (now Roosevelt Island) elevator halfway across the bridge.  The history of the Queenboro Plaza station on the Queens side is very interesting with joint IRT/BMT services between Astoria and Flushing, and the legacy of the only place where cross-platform transfers between the systems still exist.

Some links:

[url=http://Video of the streetcar - https://youtu.be/sTGwnvyIw1I?si=8ECATrqJGAIVj573]Video of the streetcar - https://youtu.be/sTGwnvyIw1I?si=8ECATrqJGAIVj573

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Queensborough_Bridge_Railway

nycsubway.org: The 2nd Avenue Elevated

 



Date: 07/11/24 00:59
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: mab

No trains in these. but here are two photos of things in the photo you asked about.

#1 is the Queensborough / 59th Street / Ed Koch bridge from the Manhattan side. The land mass visible across the river is Roosevelt Island, formerly known as "Welfare Island" for the various public health hospitals once located there. Now home to condos and the NYC campus of Cornell Tech. There's a tramway you can take to get to the island from Manhattan, with its pylons and cables visible behind the bridge in this photo.

#2 is the Ravenswood power station, the complex with the red and white smokestacks in your photo. Home of "Big Allis", a gigawatt oil / natural gas generator that once supplied about 20% of NYC's power.

 



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Date: 07/11/24 08:40
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: TAW

DavidP Wrote:
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> wcamp1472 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Also known by the locals, as the
> > 59th St Bridge …..
>
> Feelin' Groovy?


Was waiting for that.

TAW



Date: 07/11/24 11:16
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: timz

mab Wrote:
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> Home of "Big Allis", a gigawatt oil / natural gas
> generator that once supplied about 20% of NYC's
> power.

Big Allis itself supplied 20% of NYC's power?
Or the whole Ravenswood plant?

Did it start out as a coal plant?



Date: 07/11/24 11:34
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: mab

timz Wrote:
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> mab Wrote:
> ----------------------
>
> > Home of "Big Allis", a gigawatt oil / natural
> gas
> > generator that once supplied about 20% of NYC's
> > power.
>
> Big Allis itself supplied 20% of NYC's power?
> Or the whole Ravenswood plant?
>
> Did it start out as a coal plant?

No, just Big Allis (at the time it was built, in the 60's). The #30 generator (Big Allis) basically tripled the capacity of the plant, with almost 1GW added capacity.

It was designed to be able to use coal, but has never been fired with it. You can see the (never-used) coal handling facilities in the photo.

The generator has a troubled reliability history, and was seriously damaged in the 1965 blackout.

The Ravenswood plant has been controversial from the beginning and has been supplying a diminishing fraction of NYC's energy over the years. It's been linked to a spike of asthma cases in the neighborhood, and is likely to be replaced with battery banks that store renewable energy from upstate.



 



Date: 07/11/24 11:43
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: timz

So ... gigawatt generators aren't the usual thing,
even these days?



Date: 07/11/24 11:46
Re: Still another "Where is this? in New York
Author: mab

timz Wrote:
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> So ... gigawatt generators aren't the usual
> thing,
> even these days?

At the time Big Allis was installed, that was a big deal. Less so now.



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