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Date: 02/03/25 19:27
CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: TRACKENGR

My house if about 1000' from the NS Harrisburg Line between MP 24.5 and CP Phoenix in Chester County PA.  As a good railfan, when I'm home, I always keep the scanner on.  My wife loves me.

Back in the day (1999) you could see 20 + trains a day on the Harrisburg Line.  Not so much now.

We were down to 8 daily - regular schedued - trains between Abrams and Phoenix until last week when we got two CSX Detour trains.
After two days, it appears that the pattern is M371 running west at Phoenix between 1:30pm and 2:30pm, and M372 running east betweeen 8pm and 9:30pm.

While its really cool to have another "daylight" train, I have a question for "those in the know".

Can someone tell me the origination and destination of M371 and M372?

Also, I believe CSX got permission to run up to 4 trains per day (?) whats next?

Steve



Date: 02/03/25 20:33
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: Gonut1

I'm not sure what my "wife loves me" has anything entering into this but it seems that you reside near me, sort of a funny statement. I'm near CP Cromby. I just haven't received enough info to chase these CSX detours although I've seen a couple of posts. 
I believe the reroutes are from Orangeville Maryland to Eastside Yard in Philadelphia and reverse.
Gonut



Date: 02/03/25 21:06
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: WM_1109

TRACKENGR Wrote:
> Can someone tell me the origination and
> destination of M371 and M372?
> Steve

M371 is Philadelphia, PA to Cumberland, MD; M372 is Cumberland to Philadelphia.
The pair is utilizing trackage rights over NS between Philadelphia and Hagerstown during the Howard Street Tunnel reconstruction project.
Orangeville, though a lovely spot on the NEC back in the day, has nothing to do with it.
/Ted



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/25 21:21 by WM_1109.



Date: 02/04/25 06:28
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: orhs4ever

"My wife loves me"...Sarcasm...obviously doesn't appreciate listening to his scanner...:)



Date: 02/04/25 07:34
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: ALCO630

WM_1109 Wrote:
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> TRACKENGR Wrote:
> > Can someone tell me the origination and
> > destination of M371 and M372?
> > Steve
>
> M371 is Philadelphia, PA to Cumberland, MD; M372
> is Cumberland to Philadelphia.
> The pair is utilizing trackage rights over NS
> between Philadelphia and Hagerstown during the
> Howard Street Tunnel reconstruction project.
> Orangeville, though a lovely spot on the NEC back
> in the day, has nothing to do with it.
> /Ted

Also, M377 and M378 have been added for extra traffic as Needed plus whatever the symbol is for the coal trains.

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Doug Wetherhold
Macungie, PA



Date: 02/04/25 09:13
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: bigsavage

Last night's coal drag was C733, EB through the Greencastle cam @ 2235



Date: 02/04/25 11:05
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: globalethanol

M372 just got EC1 form Cherry Run to Hagerstown. 14:00

twl

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Date: 02/04/25 13:02
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: DubyaM

Orangeville being an engine terminal at the west end of Bayview yard in Baltimore.  Must have been a busy place in the age of steam.



Date: 02/04/25 14:13
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: globalethanol

New crew on 372 at CP.Town.
6 units 147 wagons. 735 leader

twl

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Date: 02/04/25 18:00
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: Darthsimpletext

Shouldn't I032 ALSO BE DETOURING on the harrisburg line? he's a priority train, shocklingly, he should also be detouring on the harrisburg line but he terminates at curtis bay in baltimore

nick



Date: 02/04/25 19:11
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: TRACKENGR

Thanks for all of the responses.  Hopefully it will be good summer in eastern PA with the detours.

Yes, the "my wife loves me" is a reference that I always have the scanner on in the basement.  Fortunately (for her) we live near the NS Harrisburg Line so there is not a lot of radio traffic.

Last year, I put together a list of trains through CP Phoenix in 1997 vs. now.  It was based on the CR schedule book on a "Friday".  Anyway, the count was 20 vs. 8.  That excludes unit trains.  Keep in mind that in 1997 there were still 3(ish) power plant boilers working east of Phoenix that received trains and sent back empties.  And there were the D&H (CP) trains that were not included.

Steve



Date: 02/05/25 08:45
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: WM_1109

Darthsimpletext Wrote:
> Shouldn't I032 ALSO BE DETOURING on the harrisburg
> line? he's a priority train, shocklingly, he
> should also be detouring on the harrisburg line
> but he terminates at curtis bay in baltimore
> nick

I'll be sure to pass along your suggestion the next time I have lunch with Joe.
/Ted



Date: 02/05/25 11:08
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: ShortlinesUSA

Darthsimpletext Wrote:
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> Shouldn't I032 ALSO BE DETOURING on the harrisburg
> line? he's a priority train, shocklingly, he
> should also be detouring on the harrisburg line
> but he terminates at curtis bay in baltimore
>
> nick

That's the point of the other thread that maybe you somehow missed. They are trucking the traffic north of Baltimore in the interest of time. Customers don't care how it gets there even if you like the train. They don't want their shipments going via Cleveland and Selkirk just to stay on the rails the whole way.

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Date: 02/06/25 13:16
Re: CSX Detours on NS Harrisburg Line and a question
Author: Darthsimpletext

will the manifest traffic detouring on NS amount to 2 or 3 Manifest trains fowarded to new jersey? I don’t know what still runs (M300? M301? M404? M403? and other extras?)

nick

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