Model Railroading > C415 Cabs

Hi, I know that the C415 was built with multiple different cab heights. I have recently gotten ahold of one of the old AHM units that I'm looking to hack into a respectable model of a RI unit, and I was wondering if the AHM cab is correct for the Rock units. If not, what part of the cab would need to be modified to be "more correct?" Thanks a lot, Jeff

sd70,

Here was a quick and dirty job I did on one of them to get as close as I could to a SP&S C415:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,1033992,1033992#msg-1033992

J.

The rock units had the medium cab on them. It's hard to say what the AHM cab is, but my hunch is that it's the high cab version. A thing that needs to be done to the AHM for certain is to get rid of that round fan opening on the top of the front hood. That fan only appeared on the Demo C415, production models didn't have it.

Speaking of production - there were 26 C415's manufactured. They were

Alco Demo - 1 built - Medium Cab and ARR B trucks
SP - 10 built - High Cab and ARR B trucks
CRI&P - 10 Built - Medium Cab and ARR B trucks
Monogahila Connecting - 1 built - Low Cab with Hi-Ad trucks
SP&S - 2 built - Medium Cab and Hi-Ad trucks
Columbia and Cowlitz - 1 built - High Cab and Hi-AD trucks
CM&E - 1 built - High Cab with Hi-Ads

Here is an example of a RI unit. I do believe that would be the medium height cab.

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From what I seem to recall, the AHM C415 had the high cab on it.

Cheers,
Harry

I thought 27 were built. I thought Columbia and Cowlitz had two.

C&C's second C415 started out as an SP unit.

They sure are neat little boogers. I was given special treatment by Ohio River Terminals (Huntington WVA) the last and final owner of the ex BN/SP&S pair. They fired up 4011 and bounced her out of the shop for pix. It had terrible wheels on it. Both were unceremoniously cut up after no buyer could be found.
Larry

A buyer couldn`t be found for them at the price that was requested for them. I`m not sure but if I`m correct the Buffalo Southern made a bid for both of them and the owner felt that they were worth more as scrap. Supposedly the trucks needed so much work done to them to make them transit worthy the BSOR felt that the price didn`t justify the cost of bringing the trucks up to spec, on top of purchasing the units.

shadow Wrote:
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> Supposedly the trucks needed
> so much work done to them to make them transit
> worthy the BSOR felt that the price didn`t justify
> the cost of bringing the trucks up to spec, on top
> of purchasing the units.


Hmm. If I'm not mistaken (and I could be), one of the C430's on WNYP lost its Hi-Ads in favor of AAR-B's. Do they suffer from metal fatigue, cracking, something like that?

I haven`t seen anything about any of the C430`s having the trucks changed out, although I do recall that the Suskie had cracking problems with the truck frames.
I think the biggest problem with the ex-SPS/BN C415`s were very flat wheelsets.
John W.