Model Railroading > Single-unit 40-ft well cars in HO?

I may have looked over and missed them, but does anyone make any single-unit 40-ft well cars in HO scale? I'm staying out of model shops until the construction business picks up again (soon, I hope), otherwise I just spend money I can't afford. But I never have seen these in shops anywhere.

Thanks.

Jimmie Fisher
Oriental, NC
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Do the railroads have any single 40' well cars? I don't think so.

KG

I was in in the LHS sunday and saw some Walthers gold line well cars stenciled 20 footers, and they had 4,20 foot containers also,Ed

Only one I can think of is one of Southern Pacific's prototype double stacks:

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/flat/f070-81.htm

Only model I know of was an HO "craftsman kit" (pile of Evergreen strips and sheet plus copy of the MR plans) sold by The Original Whistlestop Trains.

- Arved

TTX and others have been cutting down 48' wells to 40' wells in their older stack cars now that the 48' domestic containers have been essentially retired from service. This applies to both single-unit cars as well as five-unit articulated well cars.
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Nowadays, generally speaking, it's either 20'/40'/45' international-service ISO containers, or 53' Domestic containers, so 48' wells don't make much sense anymore.

Cheers,
Harry



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/10 23:38 by tracktime.

Thanks Harry, I think I'll go back and get those two rascals, Ed

The first 48' cars TTX cut down to 40' back around 2002-2003 were single unit Thrall cars. No model has been made of the 40' cars, but Walthers made the 48' cars in the early 1990s. You might be able to find an old Walthers car and take a hacksaw to it.

More recently, I think many of the red Greenbriar/Coe Rail/Northwestern Oklahoma Husky Stacks have been cut down from 48' to 40'. Again, no models of the shortened 40' cars are available, but Athearn and A-Line/Intermountain make the 48' car which can be shortened like the prototype.

In fact, while out railfanning today I saw a stand-alone 40' well. I was wrong with my earlier post. Sorry.

KG

kgmontreal Wrote:
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> In fact, while out railfanning today I saw a
> stand-alone 40' well. I was wrong with my earlier
> post. Sorry.

Except I think it's correct that no cars were new-built that way. The 40' stand-alone well car is a fairly recent development.

toledopatch Wrote:
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> > In fact, while out railfanning today I saw a
> > stand-alone 40' well. I was wrong with my
> earlier
> > post. Sorry.
>
> Except I think it's correct that no cars were
> new-built that way. The 40' stand-alone well car
> is a fairly recent development.

Not quite. As Arved mentioned, the first double stack car ever built was a car with 40' wells - SP 513300.

Best Regards,
Harry

tracktime Wrote:
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> > > In fact, while out railfanning today I saw a
> > > stand-alone 40' well. I was wrong with my
> > earlier
> > > post. Sorry.
> >
> > Except I think it's correct that no cars were
> > new-built that way. The 40' stand-alone well
> car
> > is a fairly recent development.
>
> Not quite. As Arved mentioned, the first double
> stack car ever built was a car with 40' wells - SP
> 513300.

Stipulated. But that car never went into production as a stand-alone car. Right? Can't imagine a prototype one-off like that being viable as a mass-produced model.

toledopatch Wrote:
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> > Not quite. As Arved mentioned, the first
> double
> > stack car ever built was a car with 40' wells -
> SP
> > 513300.
>
> Stipulated. But that car never went into
> production as a stand-alone car. Right? Can't
> imagine a prototype one-off like that being viable
> as a mass-produced model.

You stated "I think it's correct that no cars were new-built that way."'

I was stating the fact that there was indeed one car that was built new with a 40' well. SP 513300. Don't change the parameters of your original statement. I never said that the SP 513300 became the prototype for other single-unit cars, much less a mass-produced model. SP 513300 was the first modern double-stack car ever built, and is essentially the ancestor to all doublestack cars today. Many three and five-unit articulated cars were built for the SP by ACF based on the design pioneered by the 513300.

Cheers,
Harry

tracktime Wrote:
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> > tracktime Wrote:
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> > >
> > > Not quite. As Arved mentioned, the first
> > double
> > > stack car ever built was a car with 40' wells
> -
> > SP
> > > 513300.
> >
> > Stipulated. But that car never went into
> > production as a stand-alone car. Right? Can't
> > imagine a prototype one-off like that being
> viable
> > as a mass-produced model.
>
> You stated "I think it's correct that no cars were
> new-built that way."'
>
> I was stating the fact that there was indeed one
> car that was built new with a 40' well. SP 513300.
> Don't change the parameters of your original
> statement. I never said that the SP 513300 became
> the prototype for other single-unit cars, much
> less a mass-produced model. SP 513300 was the
> first modern double-stack car ever built, and is
> essentially the ancestor to all doublestack cars
> today. Many three and five-unit articulated cars
> were built for the SP by ACF based on the design
> pioneered by the 513300.
>

And "stipulated" means I accepted your correction of my statement. I didn't change any parameters, only furthered the discussion about why such a car has not appeared in HO, which was the original question. Sometimes a discussion is a discussion, not an argument.

calsubd Wrote:
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> Thanks Harry, I think I'll go back and get those
> two rascals, Ed
My bad, I went back today and the print was 28 footers not 20 footers, sorry guys, ed

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> those
> > two rascals, Ed
> My bad, I went back today and the print was 28
> footers not 20 footers, sorry guys, ed

You must have seen the 56-foot well car from Athearn or its ancestor - the original "Husky Stack 2+2" kit from RailPower. That "2+2" version of the Gunderson Husky Stack car was intended primarily to carry four 28' UPS containers.

Cheers,
Harry

tracktime Wrote:
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> > > Thanks Harry, I think I'll go back and get
> > those
> > > two rascals, Ed
> > My bad, I went back today and the print was 28
> > footers not 20 footers, sorry guys, ed
>
> You must have seen the 56-foot well car from
> Athearn or its ancestor - the original "Husky
> Stack 2+2" kit from RailPower. That "2+2" version
> of the Gunderson Husky Stack car was intended
> primarily to carry four 28' UPS containers.
>
> Cheers,
> Harry
Think your right Harry, Ed