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Date: 06/10/19 17:03
Rapido ESU file question
Author: JimMRL

Is the ESU Loksound file the same for the F40 as the NPCU (Cabbage)?

I picked up a DC NPCU and want to put a sound decoder in it.

thanks.



Date: 06/10/19 17:53
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: KM-ML4000

NPCUs are Non Powered Control Inits, so other than airhorn and bell, there is not much noise coming from them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/19 20:46 by KM-ML4000.



Date: 06/11/19 07:37
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: RRBaron

JimMRL Wrote:
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> Is the ESU Loksound file the same for the F40 as
> the NPCU (Cabbage)?  !!!!!!!!

F1-Forward
F2-Backward 

 



Date: 06/11/19 07:57
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: brfriedm

and RRbaron's trolling continues.  Bruce 

RRBaron Wrote:
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> JimMRL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the ESU Loksound file the same for the F40
> as
> > the NPCU (Cabbage)?  !!!!!!!!
>
> F1-Forward
> F2-Backward 
>
>  



Date: 06/11/19 08:04
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: SPDRGWfan

Just curious, is the model like the real thing with no motor in them?  If no motor, are they cheaper?  I tried to look them up on Rapido's site but the page for the NPCU cabbage cars went AWOL



Date: 06/11/19 08:25
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: tmurray

SPDRGWfan Wrote:
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> Just curious, is the model like the real thing
> with no motor in them?  If no motor, are they
> cheaper?  I tried to look them up on Rapido's
> site but the page for the NPCU cabbage cars went
> AWOL

They are motorized. As Jason stated in a viedo a whole back, the cost would be negligable (about $6), and the Walthers cans need all the help they can get.



Date: 06/11/19 09:42
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: PHall

Contacting Rapido directly should get you a straight answer on which decoder to use.



Date: 06/11/19 10:35
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: railfan400

The sound file for the NPCU is different than the regular F40PH. The NPCU has welcome aboard and pre-arrival announcements and a cab air conditioner sound that the F40PH doesn't. It does not have prime mover or dynamic brake sounds as far as I can tell. Both have doors opening/closing, horn, bell and brake squeal sounds.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/19 10:37 by railfan400.



Date: 06/11/19 11:28
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: fbe

No, no.

FI is bell both directions
F2 is horn both directions





RRBaron Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> JimMRL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the ESU Loksound file the same for the F40
> as
> > the NPCU (Cabbage)?  !!!!!!!!
>
> F1-Forward
> F2-Backward 
>
>  



Date: 06/11/19 17:01
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: JimMRL

railfan400 Wrote:
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> The sound file for the NPCU is different than the
> regular F40PH. The NPCU has welcome aboard and
> pre-arrival announcements and a cab air
> conditioner sound that the F40PH doesn't. It does
> not have prime mover or dynamic brake sounds as
> far as I can tell. Both have doors
> opening/closing, horn, bell and brake squeal
> sounds.

Finally someone answered my question.  Now I just have to find someone with the Loksound programer/computer to copy the file for me from a NPCU and send it to me.  Rapido only has the F40 sound file online.

I know what sound decoder to get, I just need the sound file.  

Thanks,

Jim



Date: 06/11/19 17:19
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: fbe

Work with Rapido. Buy the decoder from them and ask them to program it for you before they send it out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/19 20:43 by fbe.



Date: 06/11/19 18:55
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: railfan400

Unless Rapido has changed policy, they do not have freely downloadable ESU LokSound sound files. They do have downloadable non-sound files available. They can program decoders purchased from them with the desired Rapido sound file. I believe this was done to protect their proprietary work on recording and creating the proper sounds.



Date: 06/11/19 23:27
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: RRBaron

> They are motorized. As Jason stated in a viedo a
> whole back, the cost would be negligable (about
> $6), and the Walthers cans need all the help they
> can get.

Indeed when Irv Athearn passed on to the Great Roundhouse in the Sky, Athearn Inc. soon dropped "dummy" units. Then I was told that dropping the motor would only save the new Athearn about $3. a dummy unit over a powered one, but they would have to sell the dummies for a lot less retail. Irv wanted to "grow" the hobby. He long ago had made his millions. It wasn't then, so much, an investor medium, it was a "hobby" hobby-sake. 



Date: 06/12/19 08:51
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: tmurray

JimMRL Wrote:
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> Finally someone answered my question.  Now I just
> have to find someone with the Loksound
> programer/computer to copy the file for me from a
> NPCU and send it to me.  Rapido only has the F40
> sound file online.
>
> I know what sound decoder to get, I just need the
> sound file.  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim

A sound file cannot be extracted from the decoder, only the CVs can.  As others have said, try contacting Rapido.
 



Date: 06/12/19 10:08
Re: Rapido ESU file question
Author: mikelikestrains

railfan400 Wrote:
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> Unless Rapido has changed policy, they do not have
> freely downloadable ESU LokSound sound files. They
> do have downloadable non-sound files available.
> They can program decoders purchased from them with
> the desired Rapido sound file. I believe this was
> done to protect their proprietary work on
> recording and creating the proper sounds.

Mike here from Rapido Trains - This is correct. Since we spend a lot of time & money on our recordings, we will only provide our sound files on decoders purchased from Rapido directly.

Customers are still welcome to browse the library on the ESU website and load those sounds onto their decoders. Often times there is a comparable sound file available from ESU.



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