Model Railroading > New Walthers 1960s Train!

Walthers just announced its "new" 1960s streamliner for the next season--its Pennsy's "THE GENERAL", ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz. Nice if you are a Pennsy freak or like "brown" trains. What about a Florida Train, Texas Special or better yet, the North Coast Limited? 

Or Prospector?

What not another S P ! !  ?

Ed Stewart
Jacksonville, FL

Were not these cars previously produced for the Broadway Limited a number of years back?  If so, no new style cars produced - just reruns.

Walthers says that there are three cars in the consist with new tooling. Anyone know what they are? This train had a mix of equipment.

Victor



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RRBaron Wrote:
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> Walthers just announced its "new" 1960s
> streamliner for the next season--its Pennsy's "THE
> GENERAL", ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz. 


Can't please everyone I guess.  Walthers got a nice preorder from me today though!

Reason is the PRR stuff sells !!  Plain and simple. -----  Ken 

With the three cars in the consist with new tooling, do you think Walthers will just modify some existing cars or make something new? What has Walthers done in the past? I understand this was Pennsy's No. 2 train behind the Broadway Limited.
Victor



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Kemacprr Wrote:
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> Reason is the PRR stuff sells !!  Plain and
> simple. -----  Ken 

How would anyone know if Northern Pacific, Reading or Rio Grande stuff wouldn't sell if no one produces passenger train sets for those railroads?

SPDRGWfan Wrote:
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> Or Prospector?

Or the Yampa Valley Mail.  Walthers even has in production a PA which was common assigned to this train.

To Walther's credit, they also offer the shorter Washington section which many modelers would find to be a better fit for smaller layouts.

I'm not a Pennsy expert, but I would guess the cars could also work for the Duquesne, Juniata and Buffalo Day Express  which were also shorter trains.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There are just some roads that are modeled much more than others. Surveys have proven that out too. However, I would suspect that DRG&W passenger trains would sell and the Zepyhr has been produced. For the Wabash, I am forutnate there are some items produced for that road but not much passenger equipment. My trains are heavyweights. (I could use some heavyweight combines and some true middle window coaches.)

Victor

RuleG Wrote:
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> Kemacprr Wrote:
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> > Reason is the PRR stuff sells !!  Plain and
> > simple. -----  Ken 
>
> How would anyone know if Northern Pacific, Reading
> or Rio Grande stuff wouldn't sell if no one
> produces passenger train sets for those railroads?

Another year and SP is ignored again. Given the number of Budd cars released in the past, a Sunset Limited should be able to use cores and trucks they’ve already designed, reducing costs somewhat. Oh well.

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While we are whining, there's always the Milwaukee Road Pullman Creek-series Skytop, Lake-series 10-6 sleeper and Touralux sleeper to make an Olympian Hiawatha.  Don't think we'll ever see that.

The Milwaukee Skytop obs are such beautiful cars that I could see Rapido doing those some day... And they were used in Canada???

Victor

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> The Milwaukee Skytop obs are such beautiful cars
> that I could see Rapido doing those some day...
> And they were used in Canada???
>
> Victor

Rapido has repeatedly said NON to this car.  And yes CNR bought them and used them!

Never say never!

Victor

4489 Wrote:
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> wabash2800 Wrote:
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> > The Milwaukee Skytop obs are such beautiful
> cars
> > that I could see Rapido doing those some day...
> > And they were used in Canada???
> >
> > Victor
>
> Rapido has repeatedly said NON to this car.  And
> yes CNR bought them and used them!

RuleG Wrote:
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> Kemacprr Wrote:
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> > Reason is the PRR stuff sells !!  Plain and
> > simple. -----  Ken 
>
> How would anyone know if Northern Pacific, Reading
> or Rio Grande stuff wouldn't sell if no one
> produces passenger train sets for those railroads?

I happened to be in my LHS a few years back when a Walthers rep called and asked the owner if he thought anyone would be interested in the flavor of the year. He told them to hang on a sec, looked at me and asked if I or anyone I knew would be interested in it, and relayed my negative response to the rep. 

it's sort of a no win for Walthers isn't it? No matter what train they choose, only a select few will be interested and the rest disappointed.

RuleG Wrote:
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> Kemacprr Wrote:
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> > Reason is the PRR stuff sells !!  Plain and
> > simple. -----  Ken 
>
> How would anyone know if Northern Pacific, Reading
> or Rio Grande stuff wouldn't sell if no one
> produces passenger train sets for those railroads?

Do you really think companies do not do market research?

Typhoon Wrote:
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> RRBaron Wrote:
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> > Walthers just announced its "new" 1960s
> > streamliner for the next season--its Pennsy's
> "THE
> > GENERAL", ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz. 
>
>
> Can't please everyone I guess.  Walthers got a
> nice preorder from me today though!

As I wrote previously: "ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz". (Okay, just kidding!)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/21 08:05 by RRBaron.