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Date: 09/29/22 08:39
BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Does anyone have a roster of the current BNSF business fleet with the lineage of each car (where they came from, original configuration) ?
I think there are 32 active cars in the Business car fleet.
We are trying to see if there is a market for these cars and how many types will have to be drawn.
The Coach Yard



 



Date: 09/29/22 08:56
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: bigmc83

While you're at it, add the CSX and NS fleets too.  The CSX cars just got repainted in a B&O style livery, and the NS cars would look great behind the OMI F units or Athearn SD60Es.

-Sean



Date: 09/29/22 09:12
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Sean - one at a time, please !



Date: 09/29/22 10:18
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: tuxedorailfan

30-32 sounds like the right number. I know that all but one or two of the open observation cars have had their ends closed in. 



Date: 09/29/22 10:21
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: PHall

tuxedorailfan Wrote:
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> 30-32 sounds like the right number. I know that
> all but one or two of the open observation cars
> have had their ends closed in. 

Those are removable ends on those cars. They can usually be installed or removed in an hour or two. Usually used when the car is not at the rear of the train.



Date: 09/29/22 11:17
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Yes, The Coach Yard did the  "Security Inserts"  on the last production run of the "Modern" Santa Fe Business cars.
it was an optional install and easily removed
see page 160 of the "Business and Special Purpose Cars" , published by the SFRH&TS
original



Date: 09/29/22 12:36
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: mcdeo

I don't have a complete list, but here are some references: 
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,163229

http://www.qstation.org/BNSF_Biz_Cars/

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=BNSF&cid=24

https://fobnr.org/bn/business-cars-1970/

 

Mike ONeill
Parker, CO



Date: 09/29/22 13:07
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Mike - thanks !
 



Date: 09/29/22 13:57
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: TomG

One car that isn't on the lists is DZ dome obs Silver Veranda. BNsf rebuilt it into BNsf 35 Canyon View. This is a good candidate cause you can also do it in its CB&Q DZ version since it hasnt been reproduced.



Date: 09/29/22 14:57
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Tom
How well do you know the BNSF fleet ?
BNSF lists the car origin as ATSF and I agree it's a DZ car (CB&Q)
This is why I am asking for help - BNSF does not know the origins of lots of their cars
Fred
 



Date: 09/29/22 16:05
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: TomG

Fred I'm sorry that I can't be more help, I'm not much of a BNSF fan, more of a Zephyr fan. It is definitely a CB&Q car, only 2 Budd cars of its type were Silver Varanda and Silver Chateau and I believe the Chateau was wrecked in the late 70s. So outside of this car I can't help you very much.



Date: 09/29/22 20:30
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: dan

the two built for KCZ were pretty close externally at least to the DZ cars, one is at Bransen



Date: 09/29/22 21:30
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: TomG

dan Wrote:
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> the two built for KCZ were pretty close externally
> at least to the DZ cars, one is at Bransen

The obs on the KCZ were the Silver Tower and the Silver Terrace. While both series cars were blunt end cars, the dome was in the forward third of the car instead of to the rear of the car like the Veranda.



Date: 09/29/22 21:44
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: TomG

I was mistaken, Shoreham Shops did do the Silver Veranda some time ago. Would be nice for a better model.



Date: 09/30/22 07:00
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: stevenlsilva

I have two sheets of decals for them



Date: 09/30/22 07:58
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: dan

----
> > the two built for KCZ were pretty close
> externally
> > at least to the DZ cars, one is at Bransen
>
> The obs on the KCZ were the Silver Tower and the
> Silver Terrace. While both series cars were blunt
> end cars, the dome was in the forward third of the
> car instead of to the rear of the car like the
> Veranda.
RIP the Silver Chateau, thanks for pointing that out, DZ cars were my all time favorites!



Date: 09/30/22 08:07
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

Back on Point - anyone profess to know the modern BNSF Business car fleet ?
as an example  - What NP car is still in the fleet ?
Fred
 



Date: 09/30/22 08:35
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: dan

looks like stampede pass, missouri river, and the above mentioned NP bagg for 3 cars? 



Date: 09/30/22 10:04
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: original

What BNSF Baggage car ? - CANYON VIEW ?
Do you know if LAKE SUPERIOR (Budd Diner) was an NP car ?



Date: 09/30/22 11:24
Re: BNSF Business cars 2022
Author: dan

yep it was so 4, the lake superior was in a derailment so amtrak passed on it

if you count yellowstone river, that is stationary maybe 5 then?  didn't think about those

someone mentioned a bagg that was formally owned by Royal Rail then went to a florida operation, and came back to the BNSF? that was in addition to power /sleeper Stampede pass

anyone know who bought the clark fork river?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/22 12:31 by dan.



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