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Model Railroading > ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil CarsDate: 02/03/23 16:32 ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: atsf121 I was excited to see a new coil car option in HO announced by ScaleTrains, especially one that fits the era I model. Now, I might have a few too many coil cars, but that's a debate for another day. This car is different than the Rivet Counter 42' Thrall-Trinity car they made a few years ago. I have one of the NS Protect III cars and it's fabulous. I was curious about eras for some of the paint schemes on this new car, and I have to say I appreciate manufacturers putting the date ranges out there on their websites for the individual paint schemes or configurations of the model, not just a blanket range for the model itself. It helps me decide which car - ok, let's be honest, cars - work for my circa 1995 layout. I saw one scheme I'm getting for sure, and possibly two others that were of interest. Some of the ones I liked might not work for my layout because of things like conspicuity striping. So I appreciate the effort in not only building the models, but providing the amount of information that helps me make good descisions about what to acquire - after I deal with the budget hurdles! :)
Someone asked on the ScaleTrains announcement thread below if these were the same as the Walthers & Intermountain cars. These aren't, but they are similar though. Here's what I know about modeling coil cars, please fill in additions or make corrections:
Happy modeling, Nathan Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/23 17:12 by atsf121. Date: 02/04/23 14:10 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: EricSP USS-UPI (formerly USS-POSCO) regularly gets coils in GRW (formerly EJE) gondolas in addition to the BNSF coil cars (without hoods).
Date: 02/07/23 17:44 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: tmotor Greetings Nathan!
Very nice synopsis of the prototypes than have been offered as models. :-D > Are there any other prototypes for coil cars out there beside the ones I've mentioned? Another trough-style coil car are the COIL CARe cars. Initially BN purchased relatively short 34' cars. (The "length" is the measurement of the interior trough that can carry coils vs. the 42' between the coupler faces.) After the BNSF merger, they ordered a stretched version that added about 10'. The spotting feature between them is the spine on the longer car hangs-down much lower. https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,5476227,5476227#msg-5476227 These are routinely seen on Tehachapi, at least once a week. The Kaiser Steel Plant in Los Angeles uses them to haul product to manufacturing plants in the Richmond, CA area. The problem (for railfans) is they tend to run at night, but if I'm lucky I can catch them during daylight hours. Occasionally they run as a Unit Train, sometimes during the day. I have only caught a Unit Train once during the day. It is quite a sight. REALLY heavy. Usually lots of power on the head-end with a pusher or two. Take care and God bless! Dave Date: 02/07/23 21:50 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: atsf121 tmotor Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Greetings Nathan! > Very nice synopsis of the prototypes than have > been offered as models. :-D > > Another trough-style coil car are the COIL CARe > cars. Initially BN purchased relatively short > 34' cars. (The "length" is the measurement of > the interior trough that can carry coils vs. the > 42' between the coupler faces.) After the BNSF > merger, they ordered a stretched version that > added about 10'. The spotting feature between > them is the spine on the longer car hangs-down > much lower. > > https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3, > 5476227,5476227#msg-5476227 > > Take care and God bless! > Dave Thanks Dave, for some reason I was thinking your great series on the CARe cars were about the Evans version of the car, thanks for reminding me of the difference. Would those 34' BN versions have roamed the country like other cars did, or were they in captive service? Nathan Date: 02/08/23 09:15 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: tmotor Greetings Nathan!
> Thanks Dave, for some reason I was thinking your > great series on the CARe cars were about the Evans > version of the car, thanks for reminding me of the > difference. The shorter version was built by NSC, and the longer version was built by Trinity. I think the design is proprietary, since BN(SF) is the only Class 1 railroad to run them. There are some of the longer version in the LW (Louisville & Wadley) black paint scheme, which I think are leased by BNSF since they run frequently on Tehachapi; and are certainly a long way from home rails. > Would those 34' BN versions have > roamed the country like other cars did, or were > they in captive service? They were seen nationwide, but mostly on BNSF rails. However, I have occasionally seen them on UP trains. There are a group of about 100 of them that run between Kaiser Steel (in LA) and the Bay Area (of San Francisco). A set of 50 empties will head South (technically East-bound) to Kaiser for a reload, while another set of loads heads North (technically West-bound). About once a month they run a Unit Train of loads, but usually they are in smaller strings as part of a mixed freight. Rumor has it that some of the manufacturing plants in the Bay Area will be closing, since their older equipment can't compete with the efficiency of modern plants. However, the number of loads seems to be consistent. I plan to get trackside to document them, before they go the way of the Oil Cans. Take care and God bless! Dave ![]() Date: 02/08/23 10:23 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: PHall Kaiser Steel has been gone for a couple of decades. Are you talking about California Steel Industries in Fontana? They use the old Kaiser rolling and pipe mills using imported steel slabs that come from LA Harbor.
Date: 02/08/23 15:18 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: tmotor Greetings PHall:
> Kaiser Steel has been gone for a couple of > decades. Are you talking about California Steel > Industries in Fontana? Correct. During WW II it was the largest steel mill in the world. When you see those images of invasion fleets with ships as far as the eye can see, much of that steel came from the Kaiser Steel Mill. Even though it has changed hands, the former glory of the site has permanently labeled it. Even Google Maps still labels the location as "Kaiser Steel Mill". > They use the old Kaiser > rolling and pipe mills using imported steel slabs > that come from LA Harbor. That makes sense. No way they could get away with all the pollution from a blast furnace in the LA area these days. Plus, there weren't the usual parade of ore cars needed to feed a blast furnace. I was wondering where all the raw steel came from to have a constant flow of loaded COIL CARe cars over Tehachapi. Thanks for filling-in that piece of the puzzle. ;-) Take care and God bless! Dave ![]() Date: 02/10/23 00:12 Re: ScaleTrains HO 48' 2-Hood Coil Cars Author: EricSP tmotor Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > There are a group of about 100 of them that run > between Kaiser Steel (in LA) and the Bay Area (of > San Francisco). A set of 50 empties will head > South (technically East-bound) to Kaiser for a > reload, while another set of loads heads North > (technically West-bound). About once a month > they run a Unit Train of loads, but usually they > are in smaller strings as part of a mixed > freight. Per previous posts on here they carry coils from USS-UPI in Pittsburg to Budway Enterprises in Fontana. |