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Date: 11/03/24 10:33
Division Point Models considering some famous Steam Locomotives
Author: funnelfan

Division Point Models is considering doing models of Baldwin 90-ton 2-8-2 Mikados. These were VERY popular logging and shortline locomotives and many examples are still around, some on display and others are operational. Some of the more famous examples inlclude the Oregon Pacific & Eastern #19 that starred in the movie Emperor of the North and some others. #19 has also spent time on the McCloud River Rwy and the Yreka Western and now resides in Ohio. Another locally famous example is the Cowlitz, Chehalis & Cascade Rwy #15 that has operated out of Chehalis, WA for many years. Other living examples include the McCloud/Virgina & Truckee #18, Georgia Pacific /  CD Johnson Lumber Co #5, Rayonier/ Polson Bros Lumber #90 and several others.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



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Date: 11/03/24 10:53
Re: Division Point Models considering some famous Steam Locomotiv
Author: TomG

Boy, who wouldn't want the 19 in any of her incarnations. Division point does some nice models, but i bet these will be $2500 plus.



Date: 11/03/24 11:45
Re: Division Point Models considering some famous Steam Locomotiv
Author: JDLX

Yeah, that would fill what I see as a gaping hole in the HO steam market.  The only ones that come close are the old Max Gray 1898 Mikado previously covered in this thread:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,5849071,5851120#msg-5851120

And then the Chinese SY Mikado Bachmann made a while back that has about the right proportions but would need substantial work to "Americanize". 

I could easily see these models going for at least the price mentioned.  Would be interesting seeing if they proceed with this project which variations they choose to develope, as there was a really wide variety of looks and options, including saturated steam (aka "wetbellies" or "soaks"), then superheated, a lot of the earlier soaks retrofitted with superheaters, etc.  Quite a few of these had substantial modernizations and retrofits over their operating lives that substantially changed their overall appearances.   

One small quibble and correction, the #5 in Corvallis is NOT a 90-ton Mikado, it is closer to a 70-ton locomotive, weighing in at 144,000 pounds versus 176,000-179,000+ weight range of the "90-ton" Baldwin Mikados.  The #5 also never worked for CD Johnson, Baldwin built it new in 1922 for the Brooks-Scanlon Lumber Company of Bend, Oregon, it worked there until sold to Georgia Pacific in 1956 to replace the power G-P lost in the Siletz engine house fire.  Northwest Short Line did import at least one run of the #5 in brass, one of three variations of 70-ton Baldwin mikados they imported in the roughly 1960s time frame, the others were saturated steam and slide valve equipped models based on the Polson/Rayonier #70 and a superheated and piston valve equipped model based on the California Western #45, formerly Medford Corp #3.

Will be interesting to see how this develops.

Edited to add info on the photos.  First up the the McCloud River #14 in Pondosa probably in 1949 or 1950, Baldwin built it at a "soak" in 1907, by this point in its career the original wood cab had been replaced with a steel cab and an aftermarket superheater had been installed.  It had carried an extra single phase air pump on the engineer's side at least through June 1948, but that had been removed prior to the date of this photo.  Interesting to note the #14's twin #15 got a powered reverse that the #14 did not, but also carried its wood cab until retired and scrapped.  Next up is a mid-career shot of the McCloud #18, built with superheater and piston valves, at the date of this photo (30 May 1941) the #18 still had its original wood cab which would be replaced with a steel one.  Final photo is a Ken Kidder shot of the Hammond Lumber Company #15 in Samoa, California, on 11 October 1948, this is another survivor as it resides in the old Samoa roundhouse only a few feet from the location of this photo along with the rest of the Timber Heritage Association collection.   

Jeff Moore
Elko, NV 



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Date: 11/04/24 09:54
Re: Division Point Models considering some famous Steam Locomotiv
Author: tomstp

I bet your price est. is close and that makes me happy that I do not need one of those.  The price increase on brass engines is really going out of sight for most modelers.



Date: 11/05/24 08:41
Re: Division Point Models considering some famous Steam Locomotiv
Author: RAS

I would buy a copy of YW 19 without hesitation. Here it is on the Blue Goose excursion train laying over in Montague, CA, as SP SD40T-2 8305, a regular Siskiyou Line unit at the time, leads an SP-westbound mainifest freight geograpically south towards Black Butte in August of 1989. 

-Rick

Rick Selby
Redmond, WA
Pacific Northwest RPM




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