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Date: 11/25/18 14:03
Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: joemvcnj




Date: 11/25/18 15:11
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: Tominde

How does a train get stuck for over 5 hous just miles from Sunnyaide?



Date: 11/25/18 15:14
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: JPB

CBS reported a diesel had to rescue the Acela? Were any other Amtrak or LIRR or MN trains impacted by this incident?

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/11/25/post-thanksgiving-travel/

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/18 01:29 by JPB.



Date: 11/25/18 15:15
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: altoonafn

Those poor people. The inhumane treatment of passengers must stop. 



Date: 11/25/18 15:20
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: stevelv

 Wrote:
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> How does a train get stuck for over 5 hous just
> miles from Sunnyaide?

Exactly what I was thinking Tominde!  This is inexcusable.  They should have as soon as possible hooked up a motor and pull the train back to Penn.  I as a life long railfan and Amtrak supporter (unlike some of the trolls on here) would have also been irate having to spend 5 hours on the train with no toilets.  Especially knowing how close we were to NYC and Sunnyside yard.  Unfreakingbelievable!

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Amtrak-Heading-to-Boston-Stuck-in-NYC-For-Hours-Passengers-501206211.html



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Date: 11/25/18 16:01
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: PC1974

Quote from article: "We are now into our 6th hour on the train," one Twitter user wrote. "Bathrooms have become filled to the brim due to lack of power to flush".

PRICELESS!



Date: 11/25/18 18:03
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: pdt

I  worked at Northwest Airlines when we had an airplabe full of ppl sitting on the ramp for 8 hours, during a snowstorm.

Long and short of it.... Understaffed workers decided they werent go to stick their necks out and save the day. Mgmt had being treating everyone very poorly, and calling ppl on the carpet for bogus, nitpicky things, just to show their power.  So no extraordinary effort under extroadinary circumstances.

The motto around the campus was "We're not happy, till you're not happy".    Mgnt was too stupid to figure out that happy employees make for happy customers.
Believe it or not...Richard Anderson was the person who came in and changed the culture, and provided lots of perks for employees and made life nicer for everyone.  Not nirvana, but better.

IDK extactly what happened at Amtk, but it sounds familiar.   There could have been a  no overtime under any circumstances order out, or something.
At any rate, when things get really bad, sometimes this is the way that ppl in the middle get mgmt's attention. 

Or sometimes its mission creep.  Starts out as "we'll have you moving in 15 minutes".  And the fix it time just keeps getting kicked down the road, and before u know it, 4 hours has gone by.

Or sometimes u just have a day when everyone who is able to make a command decision, is just super type B, and they are not gonna make waves, no matter what the situation.

"Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride"
 



Date: 11/25/18 19:26
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: millerdc

This happens too often and is not unique to the current situation.  A couple of years ago friends were on the Texas Eagle that lost power seven miles south of the Ft. Worth station.  They sat there over six hours without the opportunity to leave the train.  Just think how many engines must have been within 30' of the train.  My friends said Amtrak - never again.



Date: 11/25/18 19:52
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: SP4360

Oh well, another mark on Anderson's chalk board. Going to get worse before it might get better.



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Date: 11/26/18 04:41
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: joemvcnj

millerdc Wrote:
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> This happens too often and is not unique to the
> current situation.  A couple of years ago friends
> were on the Texas Eagle that lost power seven
> miles south of the Ft. Worth station.  They sat
> there over six hours without the opportunity to
> leave the train.  Just think how many engines
> must have been within 30' of the train.  My
> friends said Amtrak - never again.

In that time, they even could have gotten a LIRR engine out of Morris Park, Queens and dragged the consist back to Harold, to NYPS or east to Woodside and let the passengers head back to NYPS on a LIRR train. At least they would have gotten out and to the restroom.

LIRR used to keep Harold protect engines, a pair of SW1001 with Wabco couplers. But that was eliminated in 2010, and the facing siding at Harold they were stored on was torn up. 



Date: 11/26/18 05:22
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: Lackawanna484

Amtrak has a protect locomotive set in the pocket track at the west end of NY Penn. Electric and a dual mode, I've been informed.

NJT often has a rush hour protect job of diesel plus electric out in Harrison to protect multiple lines.

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Edited to reflect an insider's PM



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/18 08:41 by Lackawanna484.



Date: 11/26/18 14:17
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: JPB




Date: 11/26/18 14:27
Re: Amtrak Heading to Boston Stuck in NYC For Hours
Author: nm2320

Well one time on Metro North our northbound train of M7 electric multiple units came to a stop by Fordham station because we lost 3rd rail shoes on one side of train and stopped where 3rd rail was on that side. Protect diesel comes up behind us. Adapter applied to diesel engine knuckle coupler. Shoves multiple times into us and cannot couple up due to being on a curve. So another M7 train is brought to front of our train, end doors opened, plank installed in doorways and we moved to that train and went on our way.  A one hour delay or so.



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