Passenger Trains > New Stealth F59PHI Comming

Press Release: Oakland Engineers(Hogheads not nerds)went to work on this new style Stealth nose on CDTX 2007 to try to avoid the Road Foremans radar.

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Wow thats ugly

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I thought these things couldn't get any uglier

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RV009 Wrote:
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> I thought these things couldn't get any uglier

Paint that nose black, and you've got Darth Vader's own personal locomotive!

Cheers,
Harry

I hope this is temporary until the "real" nose is delivered!

WP

Extreme Makeover: Locomotive Edition.

I think they should run it how it is. Very..... unique.

RV009 Wrote:
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> I thought these things couldn't get any uglier

I think the FP-59PHIs are the best looking passenger locomotives since the PAs, Es & Fs. But that is one ugly nose job!

Dave

They actually had the nose from LA but in primer. They had to go the whole route of puting out a bid for a painter just for this nose. The nose in fact was on the loco. It is now painted and ready to be installed.

I asked why in primer? So incase a surfliner loco needs it.
Why not order two, one in each paint scheme. Duh!

Here is a photo with the primer nose on it.

Take Care,
Alex Ramos

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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought about dear old Darth Vader when I saw this!

alex14ramos Wrote:
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> Here is a photo with the primer nose on it.
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> Take Care,
> Alex Ramos


FYI, as you can see in Alex's photo, the nose cone is actually two symmetrical halves glued or probably mechanically fastened awnd bonded over. Photo link from Chris Fussell during our "tours" of the Amtrak L.A. Redondo Shops almost two years ago...

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,703415

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I remember hearing a few years ago, that Amcrash was buying the noses in bulk because of the high rate of accidents with the PHIs.

I remember while on my way to Taylor Yard for a tour a few years back, the empty field adjacent to where Dayton Tower was sitting had several spare F59PHI noses stored there, presumably for Metrolink.

PE

I don't care whatcha all think, I think these are Hella Sexy!!

The multi-faced flat panel nose is the welded steel "crash barrier" behind the areodynamic fiberglass covering.

And they said that progress is slow at Oakland Mechanical !!!!!

Now all they need to do is order a headlight bulb and vwaila

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I'm a little surprised the steel "real" nose conforms to the cosmetic one like that as much as it does since it could just have been a single flat plate coming down at the nose angle and meeting another flat plate coming up vertically...and two plates to form the sides, and the rest air space. That looks like about 8 to 10 plates.

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The steel work being fabricated from lots of flat surfaces keeps costs down while the fiberglass composite (or whatever it is) nose can be molded to any shape desired. So it would easy and inexpensive to design a locomotive that is structurally a cowl unit but externally looks like a classic EMD F unit. Or anything else.