Passenger Trains > Amtrak's continuing difficulties in the Nutmeg state

Today a NH - Springfield shuttle train derailed north of Windsor Locks due to a mud slide. From AP:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2008/03/17/amtrak_train_derails_north_of_windsor_locks_no_one_injured

Let's see, there were 6 people on board. Assuming 2 crewmen, the entire paying clientele could fit into a mid-sized car.

It's a day of derailments all over the place!

"Just another Manic Monday"

It rains like it pours.

Earlier today Amtrak was showing that both the
southbound and northbound Vermonters had
service disruptions. However, train status
information does not even show the Vermonter
operating WASH-NYP and terminating at
New Haven. Would Amtrak eliminate even the
WAS-NYP segment ? NB train operates at a
busy hour and one might assume they would
operate it at least between these two cities.

JPB Wrote:
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> Let's see, there were 6 people on board. Assuming
> 2 crewmen, the entire paying clientele could fit
> into a mid-sized car.

Is that service operated with a three car train?

JPB Wrote:
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> Let's see, there were 6 people on board. Assuming
> 2 crewmen, the entire paying clientele could fit
> into a mid-sized car.

I don't know much about the travel patterns on this line, but I note that the incident occurred on a northbound train at about 10am. I suspect this would be in the off-peak direction. There are probably more people heading to New Haven and for connections to New York in the morning. Also, the incident occured north of Hartford, so any passengers between New Haven and Hartford would have already detrained.

sactobob Wrote:
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> I don't know much about the travel patterns on
> this line, but I note that the incident occurred
> on a northbound train at about 10am. I suspect
> this would be in the off-peak direction. There
> are probably more people heading to New Haven and
> for connections to New York in the morning. Also,
> the incident occured north of Hartford, so any
> passengers between New Haven and Hartford would
> have already detrained.

..and that would seem correct. I live along the line.
It was a two car train (P42, Amcan, Control car). It's a three perosn crew: one in the cab, a perosn in change and an a/c.
Southbound traffic patterns are generally much more dense, especially south of HFD. They do carry a decent amount of people northbound as well, to SPG, but not on a Monday morning....

-Tom

So what will happen to the Vermonter for 3/18? Will it be a bus bridge, or through train? Anyone know?

jp1822 Wrote:
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> So what will happen to the Vermonter for 3/18?
> Will it be a bus bridge, or through train? Anyone
> know?

They're still clearing the crap up. The Vermonter might be able to run through IF the crews are able to finish up. As for 141 in the morning, it will most likely be substituted, but I'm not sure where the train tied down for the night.

-Tom

This morning(18th) Amtrak train status info
shows SB Vermonter is operating and is due
New Haven 4:53 pm. The northbound
Vermonter is expected to arrive Springfield
16 mins late.
495 Shuttle left SPG on time and is due
NHV 11 mins late
NB Shuttle 490 due SPG 08 early.

Boston -Albany round trips are cancelled
today and tomorrow because of track
work. I assume the Vermonter might
lose some time between Palmer and
Springfield because of this.

railcity Wrote:
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> It rains like it pours.


Huh? No it's "when it rains it pours!"