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Date: 10/12/10 16:33
14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: MaderaFlyer

Anyone know what's behind the delay on 14. Am awaiting the trip north from SLO and the station personnel are not saying a word.. Rumors have the train just outside of SBA at this late hour...

Fyi, at Fresno this morning, a two car special went north about 11:15, smooth side track measurement car on the end.



Date: 10/12/10 17:22
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: thetuck

Your train had to set out it's lead unit at Gaviota (30 miles) north of SBA. It's being picked up by a sb UP local. Per radio chatter, they might add a unit from #11. I will update you if I hear more. My guess is after 8pm at SLO.



Date: 10/12/10 18:48
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: MaderaFlyer

Thanks.... Rumors are only that the train will arrive SLO tonight.... Not the right day to take 14....



Date: 10/12/10 19:19
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: thetuck

No problem. The crew won't make it to SLO before their time is up. Just one thing after another!



Date: 10/12/10 21:08
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: MaderaFlyer

They swapped an engine with 11, crew timed out and we're looking at a midnight departure from SLO - eight hours late.



Date: 10/12/10 22:03
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: pb

Amtrak status board shows ETA at SLO 7hrs45min late at SLO. Last I heard on radio chatter,14 still at Gaviota with more problems?

pb
Oxnard CA



Date: 10/12/10 22:13
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: MaderaFlyer

Just chatted with the Slo-Sac crew. 14 is about 1:15 out of Slo now. Could be an interesting day for photo ops, as the next crew will time out at Salinas and there's no crew yet for the remainder of their leg. Will be a daylight run north of Sac tomorrow for certain.



Date: 10/13/10 03:25
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: norm1153

It's over 8 hours late out of Paso Robles! And what about the poor passengers... Bustitution looks imminent. Just have to wait and see what happens today (Wed), I guess.



Date: 10/13/10 08:56
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: pb

norm1153 Wrote:
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> It's over 8 hours late out of Paso Robles! And
> what about the poor passengers... Bustitution
> looks imminent. Just have to wait and see what
> happens today (Wed), I guess.

Probably bustitution from K-Falls to Pasco for pax that were suppose to connect with #28,
Builder connection at Portland. I know well about that.Several years ago I was on #14,was
suppose to get on #28 at portland,was going to Minot ND.Had mechanical problems at Sacramento,
was over 3 hrs.late! Got bussed from K-Falls to Pasco. About a 8 hr.bus ride!

pb
Oxnard CA



Date: 10/13/10 10:50
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: thetuck

This train will probably be annulled at PDX with bus service for all WA passengers. If not, Seattle won't have much time to get the train out tomorrow morning.



Date: 10/13/10 10:58
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: Amtkrd4man

If they get a good run to Portland they should push her through to SEA



Date: 10/13/10 12:13
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: MaderaFlyer

The 28 pax will overnite in Portland . No word on if we will run through to Seattle . Just outside Dunsmuir now



Date: 10/13/10 16:44
Re: 14 running 2 hrs late at SLO
Author: ClipX

Amtkrd4man Wrote:
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> If they get a good run to Portland they should
> push her through to SEA


George, they are holding #14 tonight in Portland. Busing passengers to Seattle.



Date: 10/13/10 19:58
#14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from PDX
Author: jp1822

ClipX Wrote:
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> Amtkrd4man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If they get a good run to Portland they should
> > push her through to SEA
>
>
> George, they are holding #14 tonight in Portland.
> Busing passengers to Seattle.

Hopefully Amtrak can run a "make-up train" (i.e. a Talgo Train set if possible), rather than a bus from Seattle to Portland so as to meet up with the Coast Starlight train set there. Not sure if there are any Amfleets or Horizon coaches at Seattle (doubt it). A cross the platform transfer can then be coordinated at Portland.

Even train Cascade train #513 from Vancouver could perhaps shuttle passengers on down to Portland - that is if there is enough capacity on #513. Train #11 from Portland would have about an hour or so late departure. But I am sure some of that time could be recovered while heading over the Cascade Mountains and on into the Bay Area by the next morning.



Date: 10/13/10 20:38
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: MaderaFlyer

We are being held by dispatch just south of Eugene.... Word from the crew was that the decision as to our future north of Portland had everything to do with arrival time in Eugene. A few crew are blaming UP...saying they are working against this train making up any time. One comment was that any arrival in Portland past midnight would require busses. I will say, the crew has been just great the entire trip.



Date: 10/13/10 20:45
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: jp1822

MaderaFlyer Wrote:
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> We are being held by dispatch just south of
> Eugene.... Word from the crew was that the
> decision as to our future north of Portland had
> everything to do with arrival time in Eugene. A
> few crew are blaming UP...saying they are working
> against this train making up any time. One
> comment was that any arrival in Portland past
> midnight would require busses. I will say, the
> crew has been just great the entire trip.

Once north of Portland, the train would be on BNSF trackage. If UP is purposely trying to delay the train in making up time, that's pretty sad. But accusations of this nature have "been around." However, if the train is still running around 8 hours late, it's "out of its time slot" and wouldn't arrive into Seattle until around 4 or 5 a.m. at best, with only about a 4 hour turn around time - let alone assuring crews are available to take the train all the way to Seattle.



Date: 10/13/10 22:57
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: ClipX

jp1822 Wrote:
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> ClipX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Amtkrd4man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If they get a good run to Portland they
> should
> > > push her through to SEA
> >
> >
> > George, they are holding #14 tonight in
> Portland.
> > Busing passengers to Seattle.
>
> Hopefully Amtrak can run a "make-up train" (i.e. a
> Talgo Train set if possible), rather than a bus
> from Seattle to Portland so as to meet up with the
> Coast Starlight train set there. Not sure if there
> are any Amfleets or Horizon coaches at Seattle
> (doubt it). A cross the platform transfer can then
> be coordinated at Portland.
>
> Even train Cascade train #513 from Vancouver could
> perhaps shuttle passengers on down to Portland -
> that is if there is enough capacity on #513. Train
> #11 from Portland would have about an hour or so
> late departure. But I am sure some of that time
> could be recovered while heading over the Cascade
> Mountains and on into the Bay Area by the next
> morning.

I wish it was that easy!! No!! We do not have any amfleet cars!!
Now, if we were in West Oakland, yes, we could build train from California Cars. (A couple of times, we did!!)



Date: 10/14/10 10:01
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: Amtkrd4man

Well if it got terminated here in Portland where did they put it...Wasnt here when we got in this morning on #500... They said last night before we left on 507 that it was going through....Over Was a bottle neck there in Eugene. We could have met them at Irving, but they let the EUgene Hauler out onto the siding. Was a southbound at swain. Could have done some creative DSing downtown.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/10 10:06 by Amtkrd4man.



Date: 10/14/10 11:32
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: ClipX

George, they ran into Seattle? WOW!!!



Date: 10/14/10 11:43
Re: #14 Terminated at Portland - Departing 10/14 from P
Author: Jaanfo

Yes, 14 went through, got to Seattle at 5:08 this morning, and turned for a 2-hour late #11 which left Seattle at 11:36.



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