Passenger Trains > Illegal Passenger Falls From Moving Train

Mojave National Preserve (CA)
Man Killed In Fall From Moving Train

Rangers, San Bernadino County deputies, and Union Pacific police all responded on Monday to a report of a body lying near the railroad tracks west of the Kelso Depot Visitor Center. The victim, apparently an illegal passenger, appeared to have fallen from the train while it was in motion and hit the ground with great force, causing dismemberment. The coroner was summoned and is conducting an investigation into the man's identity. There were no witnesses, but the incident appeared to have occurred sometime early that morning. [Submitted by Kelsey Cassidy, Park Ranger]

Source: National Park Service Morning Report

reindeerflame Wrote:
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> Mojave National Preserve (CA)
> Man Killed In Fall From Moving Train
>
> Rangers, San Bernardino County deputies, and Union
> Pacific police all responded on Monday to a report
> of a body lying near the railroad tracks west of
> the Kelso Depot Visitor Center. The victim,
> apparently an illegal passenger, appeared to have
> fallen from the train while it was in motion and
> hit the ground with great force, causing
> dismemberment. The coroner was summoned and is
> conducting an investigation into the man's
> identity. There were no witnesses, but the
> incident appeared to have occurred sometime early
> that morning.
>
> Source: National Park Service Morning Report


I didn't know passenger trains ran through Kelso any more.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/11 12:43 by toledopatch.

toledopatch Wrote:
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> reindeerflame Wrote:
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> > Mojave National Preserve (CA)
> > Man Killed In Fall From Moving Train
> >
> > Rangers, San Bernadino County deputies, and
> Union
> > Pacific police all responded on Monday to a
> report
> > of a body lying near the railroad tracks west
> of
> > the Kelso Depot Visitor Center. The victim,
> > apparently an illegal passenger, appeared to
> have
> > fallen from the train while it was in motion
> and
> > hit the ground with great force, causing
> > dismemberment. The coroner was summoned and is
> > conducting an investigation into the man's
> > identity. There were no witnesses, but the
> > incident appeared to have occurred sometime
> early
> > that morning.
> >
> > Source: National Park Service Morning Report
>
>
> I didn't know passenger trains ran through Kelso
> any more.

Someone tried to ride the ghost of Desert Wind? This thread belongs on the Western board.

Double Darwin awardees today: in Davis, CA and now here.

cchan006 Wrote:
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> > reindeerflame Wrote:
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> > > Mojave National Preserve (CA)
> > > Man Killed In Fall From Moving Train
> > >
> > > Rangers, San Bernadino County deputies, and
> > Union
> > > Pacific police all responded on Monday to a
> > report
> > > of a body lying near the railroad tracks west
> > of
> > > the Kelso Depot Visitor Center. The victim,
> > > apparently an illegal passenger, appeared to
> > have
> > > fallen from the train while it was in motion
> > and
> > > hit the ground with great force, causing
> > > dismemberment. The coroner was summoned and
> is
> > > conducting an investigation into the man's
> > > identity. There were no witnesses, but the
> > > incident appeared to have occurred sometime
> > early
> > > that morning.
> > >
> > > Source: National Park Service Morning Report
> >
> >
> > I didn't know passenger trains ran through
> Kelso
> > any more.
>
> Someone tried to ride the ghost of Desert Wind?
> This thread belongs on the Western board.


Yes, perhaps. But, a "passenger" was involved!

reindeerflame Wrote:
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> > > > Mojave National Preserve (CA)
> > > > Man Killed In Fall From Moving Train
> > > >
> > > > Rangers, San Bernadino County deputies, and
> > > Union
> > > > Pacific police all responded on Monday to a
> > > report
> > > > of a body lying near the railroad tracks
> west
> > > of
> > > > the Kelso Depot Visitor Center. The victim,
> > > > apparently an illegal passenger, appeared
> to
> > > have
> > > > fallen from the train while it was in
> motion
> > > and
> > > > hit the ground with great force, causing
> > > > dismemberment. The coroner was summoned and
> > is
> > > > conducting an investigation into the man's
> > > > identity. There were no witnesses, but the
> > > > incident appeared to have occurred sometime
> > > early
> > > > that morning.
> > > >
> > > > Source: National Park Service Morning
> Report
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't know passenger trains ran through
> > Kelso
> > > any more.
> >
> > Someone tried to ride the ghost of Desert Wind?
> > This thread belongs on the Western board.
>
>
> Yes, perhaps. But, a "passenger" was involved!

Oooh, we need a new discussion board devoted just to threads about hoboes.

toledopatch Wrote:
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> Oooh, we need a new discussion board devoted just
> to threads about hoboes.

I've been approached by the "train riders" while foaming, and have had some very interesting discussions. For those who saw Alex Ramos' presentation at Winterail 2 years ago, there was an interesting prose at the beginning about the dangers they face, from the words of a "train rider."

Anyway, this kid (in the late 20's) was taking along a girl (early 20's), and they saw my scanner and figured I was a railfan, so they started talking. He had his way of figuring out train movements, and wanted to send this girl back home to Oregon, because she was becoming annoying, in his words. The Lake Yard (Portland) had already left, but I told him The Hinkle (MRVHK) was getting ready to depart in 30 min. to an hour, so he told the girl that she should know how to travel on her own now, go on and hop on that train, but she refused.

Regardless of whether we agree with their lifestyle, they are still people, and it's very interesting to hear their side of the story sometimes.

Or.... he got tossed off by a fellow rider

A-No.1 to Portland On the 19

ut-1 Wrote:
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> A-No.1 to Portland On the 19


Watch for hammers...

Allegedly illegal alleged passenger allegedly falls from allegedly moving train, allegedly. NTSB will report findings about one year hence.

WAF Wrote:
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> Or.... he got tossed off by a fellow rider


sounds like a good episode for one of those TV HOO DUN IT cop shows

reindeerflame Wrote:
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> Yes, perhaps. But, a "passenger" was involved!


paasenger wouldn't be the right description of the fellow ... a tresspassing indigent would likely be a more descriptive title ... now a dead one

So... is it just politically incorrect to call them "Hoboes" anymore?
Or is this akin to the current trend that must label every pedestrian who steps in front of a train a "trespasser"?

Danny Harmon
Tampa

Out_Of_Service Wrote:
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> paasenger wouldn't be the right description of the
> fellow ... a tresspassing indigent would likely be
> a more descriptive title ... now a dead one

Lurch_in_ABQ Wrote:
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> Allegedly illegal alleged passenger allegedly
> falls from allegedly moving train, allegedly. NTSB
> will report findings about one year hence.

NTSB won't even pay attention to the police report on this one.

Narr8rdanny Wrote:
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> So... is it just politically incorrect to call
> them "Hoboes" anymore?
> Or is this akin to the current trend that must
> label every pedestrian who steps in front of a
> train a "trespasser"?
>
> Danny Harmon
> Tampa
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> Out_Of_Service Wrote:
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> > > Yes, perhaps. But, a "passenger" was
> involved!
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> >
> > paasenger wouldn't be the right description of
> the
> > fellow ... a tresspassing indigent would likely
> be
> > a more descriptive title ... now a dead one


NJ Transit's protocol is to describe people who are on the right of way in places other than designated crossings, or stations, as "trespassers". People killed while walking around the gates are pedestrians.

Bum?
...Lorenzo