Passenger Trains > Question on NY subway map.

http://www.mta.info/sites/default/files/pdf/SubwayRecoveryMap_0.pdf

Look on the northern end of the #1 line, just over the Harlem River. What's that border around the Marble Hill station? Is that tiny bit of land officially part of Manhattan, even though it's actually in the Bronx? Why?

symph1 Wrote:
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> http://www.mta.info/sites/default/files/pdf/Subway
> RecoveryMap_0.pdf
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> Look on the northern end of the #1 line, just over
> the Harlem River. What's that border around the
> Marble Hill station? Is that tiny bit of land
> officially part of Manhattan, even though it's
> actually in the Bronx? Why?


Yes, Marble Hill is part of the Manhattan borough. It used to be part of the island with Harlem River going around it, but then the river got redirected at some point for some industrial project, with the area, per wishes of the residents, remaining part of Manhattan.

As shipping to/from the Hudson River and East River grew, the US Army Corps of Engineers determined (in 1894) that the old, winding, shallower, narrower path of the Harlem River which went north of Marble Hill, should be replaced with a new, straighter, deeper, wider canal, which would run south of Marble Hill. So, that portion of Manhattan was cut off . . . and thus began a long story of attempts of the Bronx to annex the land, which was finally stopped by state legislative action in 1984. Another fine example of speedy resolution of a problem.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/12 12:19 by RevRandy.

The river section in question was properly known as Spuyten Duyvil Creek, and the new channel is still often called that (as in Amtrak's Spuyten Duyvil Creek bridge). Spuyten Duyvil is also the site of a double-deck higway bridge, the Hendrick Hudson Bridge, and of the former "DV" Tower, which controlled the junction of the West Side Freight Line and the NYC Hudson Division, plus an interlocking where the railroad went from three to two tracks south of Marble Hill station and then to four where the West Side Line joined.

If you take one of the Circle Line's three-hour "full circle" cruise, you'll get to pass through Spuyten Duyvil Creek and have Amtrak's bridge open for you. Cruises start from 40th Street on the West Side, go down the river to the Battery, up the East River to Hell Gate, then up the Harlem River, through the creek, and back south on the Hudson.

Took that trip in 1956. It was a Sunday morning.
Couldn't get a beer until noon. Bummer.
great trip though.
Sid/

Do they still have traffic jams in Harlem that back up to Jackson Heights?

chakk Wrote:
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> Do they still have traffic jams in Harlem that
> back up to Jackson Heights?

Is Kruschev due at Idlewild?

prr60 Wrote:
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> > Do they still have traffic jams in Harlem that
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> Is Kruschev due at Idlewild?

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