Passenger Trains > 92 schedule change

Appears 92 now leaves MIA 2 hrs later, 1:50P even though PDF schedule still shows 11:50A.  91 remains per PDF schedule.

My understand is for this week only due to CSX work window.

Sharon Evans
Glen Allen, VA

https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=13066

CSX has been working on track north of West Palm for a few weeks.

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Came through there last evening on 91, there was a slow area about opposite Pratt-Whitney factory, but only for 5 - 10 minutes.  Never did pass 92.  Did go to Tampa Saturday on 91 from DLB.  91 arrived DLB 1:10P Saturday so new or temp schedule didn't start unti Sunday.  On 91 Saturday N bound including backing off wye at Tampa took a little less than 4 hrs, Sunday S bound on 91, 3:35. 

​The equipment on 92 Saturday was lead by #125, two sleepers, amdinette, 4 coach.  Same on 91 yesterday, didn't catch number of lead. 

Why not add back diner and run 91 NYPenn - Naples, including Sarasota, Ft. Myers.  The W. Coast of FL has a very large population these days that would benefit from that service.  One train for each coast.

​Lastly, backing off the wye is done by 91 and 92, my question how is signaling at crossings in reverse avoided?  There are numerous crossings between the wye and Tampa Union Station.   

This is track work in Virginia south of Petersburg as part of CSX's putting back in some of the double track they took out some years ago.

Sharon Evans
Glen Allen, VA

PennPlat Wrote:
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> Appears 92 now leaves MIA 2 hrs later, 1:50P even
> though PDF schedule still shows 11:50A.  91
> remains per PDF schedule.

What is a 92 and what is a 91?

I guess that is a good thing, that it will only become Missing In Action 2 hours later than expected.

The Southwest coast of Florida has a huge and growing population with lots of gray hair and money to spend. However, decades ago the tracks south of Tampa were downgraded and much of the track was sold to the Seminole Gulf Railroad, a short line  freight carrier which also operates a dinner train in the Fort Myers area. Ironically, for both the Seaboard and the Coast Line, some of those tracks down the West Coast were some of the original Florida build-out and hosted a lot of passenger trains in the early years. Service south of Tampa remained until the beginning of Amtrak.
 

I had forgotten the selloff of trackage on the coast below Tampa. 

Wasn't Venice originally laid out for the retirees of railroad unions?

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That is an interesting history tidbit - never heard that one before. However, here is what Wikipedia has to say on the subject:In the 1870s, Richard Roberts established a homestead near Roberts Bay. In 1884, he sold a portion of his holdings to Frank Higel. Higel established a citrus operation involving the production of several lines of canned citrus items, and for the next 30 years the Higel family members were boat builders, fishermen, grove caretakers and contractors. Darwin Curry was the first postmaster. The Higel and Curry families chose the name "Venice" for their community post office, located south of Shakett Creek on what is now Portia Street in the unincorporated community of Nokomis.The first railroad to Venice was built in 1911, paving the way for new development and expansion. Development in Venice occurred slowly, and it remained a small fishing town and farming community through the first part of the 1920s. In 1925, Dr. Fred H. Albee, a well-known orthopedic surgeon, purchased 2,916 acres (11.80 km2) of land from the Venice-Sarasota Company. Albee had previously developed Nokomis and built its first luxury hotel, known as the Pollyanna Inn. Albee retained John Nolen, a world-renowned city planner, to design a city on his land. Fred Albee, however, did not have a chance to implement his city plan before he was approached with a proposal from the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers to purchase his land in October 1925. The purchase was motivated by a desire by the BLE to increase the union's assets and holdings in the area.[6]The BLE Realty Corporation was organized to develop the area, and the Venice Company was created to market property. The company retained planner John Nolen to complete a city plan in 1926. The BLE Realty Company selected George A. Fuller as the contractor; the New York architectural firm of Walker & Gillette, as supervising architects; and Prentiss French as landscape architect. Finally on June 10, 1926, the first street in Venice opened to traffic. Nassau Street ran from its terminus at the Tamiami Trail through Venezia Park and again into the Trail. By mid-June 1926, the first phase was complete, with 6 miles (10 km) of graded streets and a mile of 7-foot-wide (2.1 m) sidewalks and gutters. The Hotel Venice (now known as Park Place on Nassau Street) opened on June 21, 1926, and residential construction in the town started in July 1926, with the construction of three large residences in the Gulf View subdivision. That same year, the city of Venice held its first town council meeting and formed the police and fire departments. Florida Governor John W. Martin appointed Edward L. Worthington as the first mayor of Venice. After annexations of surrounding areas, the state legislature changed the designation of Venice from a "town" to "city" on May 9, 1927.[6] Venice was named after Venice, Italy.[7]The Venice Army Air Base was established in May 1942. The 27th Service Group was relocated from McDill Field in Tampa to provide training for support services to combat air units, and later, the 13th Fighter Squadron, 53rd Fighter Group, was transferred to Venice from Fort Myers. They were operational training units for combat fighter pilots and ground crewmen. After World War II, the city of Venice acquired the air base from the United States government, with the stipulation that it always be used for aviation or revert to federal ownership.[6]

jst3751 Wrote:
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> PennPlat Wrote:
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> > Appears 92 now leaves MIA 2 hrs later,
> 1:50P even
> > though PDF schedule still shows 11:50A.  91
> > remains per PDF schedule.
>
> What is a 92 and what is a 91?
If you don't know,it is like that ad "You don't know Buick"

Uncle Joe

Just outside the restored Venice train station is a large plaque describing the BLE's role in growing the town in the 1920s. The station itself is a museum.

Almost deserves a Nostalgia and History link.  LOL!
Pre-Amtrak service saw trains to Venice as well as Naples, FL.
Look how much those area have grown since 1971!
I believe Midwest Airlines carved out a nice niche market for Ft. Meyers when it was running.

I think that most on the passenger board know the numbers of the major long distance trains.  Probably would not know what a Silver Star or Silver Meteor is either.

Wurli1938 Wrote:
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> I think that most on the passenger board know the
> numbers of the major long distance trains. 
> Probably would not know what a Silver Star or
> Silver Meteor is either.


I'd agree with this, although there was a recent thread about whether train numbers, end points, etc should be used without first being spelled out.

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