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Date: 10/15/18 11:01
Service to Green Bay
Author: bluesboyst

I am looking at an old 1963 Official Guide and the CNW had at least 5 trains a day to Green Bay, WI......I wonder why there was never any push to get service back....no trains there since Amtrak Day 1971.... Sad



Date: 10/15/18 11:15
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: ATSF3751

bluesboyst Wrote:
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> I am looking at an old 1963 Official Guide and the
> CNW had at least 5 trains a day to Green Bay,
> WI......I wonder why there was never any push to
> get service back....no trains there since Amtrak
> Day 1971.... SadY

Probably could be reinstated with State funding. 

Do ya think that you Gov is interested in adding passenger trains? Maybe time for a change if you want better passenger rail service in Wisconsin.  

 



Date: 10/15/18 11:16
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: LiveWire2

Probably because it's not a large city, just over 100,000 in the city limits and less than 250,000 in the county.



Date: 10/15/18 11:22
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: NebraskaZephyr

Actually, when Tommy Thompson was Goveror of Wisconsin (and I still worked in Amtrak's division offices in Chicago), WiDOT had cooked up a proposal (more like an ultimate goal to be worked toward as funding was found) of 12 round trips per day on the Hiawatha Service between Chicago and Milwaukee, with alternating trips going on to either Madison via Watertown (6 RT/Day) or Green Bay via Fond Du Lac/Oshkosh/Appleton (6 RT/Day).

In 2003 it was thought they could get this done by 2020. You can see today how all THAT panned out....

To be fair, Wisconsin ALMOST got the Madison portion of this done with the Federal HSR grant that the current Governor (Scott Walker) refused to accept, resulting in two unused Talgo trainsets tied up in lawsuits.

Even with all that, Wisconsin is still fairly supportive of the well-patronized Chicago-Milwaukee service and favors an increase in service to 10 round trips daily from the current 7. The current holdup on that proposal (besides funding) is the construction of a controlled siding near Deerfield (on the Metra-owned portion of the route), which the NIMBYs are fighting hard against.

NZ 



Date: 10/15/18 11:32
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: robj

bluesboyst Wrote:
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> I am looking at an old 1963 Official Guide and the
> CNW had at least 5 trains a day to Green Bay,
> WI......I wonder why there was never any push to
> get service back....no trains there since Amtrak
> Day 1971.... Sad

Part of that, the shoreline, is gone.

Bob



Date: 10/15/18 11:48
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: bluesboyst

robj Wrote:
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> bluesboyst Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am looking at an old 1963 Official Guide and
> the
> > CNW had at least 5 trains a day to Green Bay,
> > WI......I wonder why there was never any push
> to
> > get service back....no trains there since
> Amtrak
> > Day 1971.... Sad
>
> Part of that, the shoreline, is gone.
>
> Bob

Is that the route that went through Sheybogan?  



Date: 10/15/18 12:26
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: robj

Yes,.

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Date: 10/15/18 12:42
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: bluesboyst

robj Wrote:
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> Yes,.
>
> Posted from Android

Darn,  too bad... so it would have to go to Fon du Lac

Does the line still go into Sheybogan from Chicago?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/18 13:31 by bluesboyst.



Date: 10/15/18 14:15
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: mp51w

LiveWire2 Wrote:
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> Probably because it's not a large city, just over
> 100,000 in the city limits and less than 250,000
> in the county.

Fond du lac, Oshkosh, Neenah/Menasha, Appleton, Kaukauna, DePere populations would certainly make it viable!



Date: 10/15/18 14:16
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: robj

Yes, there is? Still a power plant and a little lock biz.

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Date: 10/15/18 14:27
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: RRBMail

> To be fair, Wisconsin ALMOST got the Madison
 portion of this done with the Federal HSR grant
 that the current Governor (Scott Walker) refused
 to accept, resulting in two unused Talgo trainsets
 tied up in lawsuits.

You get what you vote for! At least those ugly ducklings are now running in the PNW.



Date: 10/16/18 10:12
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: KimHeusel

RRBaron Wrote:
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> You get what you vote for! At least those ugly
> ducklings are now running in the PNW.

I hadn't heard that. I thought they were still in Beech Grove after a test on the Pueblo test track earlier this year.

Kim Heusel



Date: 10/16/18 12:06
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: LiveWire2

The two that Washington/Oregon bought are running on the Amtrak Cascades route; the two that Wisconsin bought are still in storage.



Date: 10/16/18 18:28
Re: Service to Green Bay
Author: NYC4096

An early morning Amtrak departure from Green Bay with major stops down the Appleton corridor to Milwaukee would be interesting.  Return service from MKE at 5pm to Green Bay would draw traffic.



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